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Troubling Walther Trends

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In my experience american made Walthers are woefully inferior.
Years ago in the 1980s I bought a P5 that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn door at 25yds. I returned it twice with instructions to tighten it up as needed; it came back twice saying it was fine and kept shooting like a hand full of garbage. It was distributed through Alexandria Interarms, and I promptly got rid of it. Years later I purchased another P5 online auction, a decommissioned German police item, and it shot wonderfully out of the box: a real keeper. This made me a happy camper. I've had similar experiences with German vs US manufacture PPs.
Today the same woeful story holds true with the Arkansas Walther Arms PPS I recently tried at a commercial range. It seemed a good design but shot discracefully, rediculously, pathetically, contemptibly @ 15yds.
Walther is doing themselves an injustice by allowing garbage to be produced in their their name.
 
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First off, the PPS is made in Germany. NO PPS has EVER been made in the USA, the Walther Arms nomenclature is simply the importer mark, just as S&W was on the pre-2012 models.

FWIW, I have a BD code (2013) PPS 9mm as well as a BA (2010) S&W marked PPS .40.....both are so reliable as to be boring...

Sorry you had a bad P5, but that's like saying your 1984 Chevy truck with a bad engine is a good indicator that GM can't build an engine today...

Or, cliff's notes: ludicrous. :rolleyes:
 
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I'm getting the impression from his post he thinks his first P5 was made in the States too.

Not. I've never heard of an inferior P5. Ever.

Not too familiar with the brand I would say.

The PP was never manufactured in the States. It is a French or German produced model. The PPS has never been manufactured anywhere but Germany.
 
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It's true that Umarex is doing its Walther brand name a great injustice by releasing inferior firearms into the marketplace. Pistols like the P22, the PK380, the SP22, the problems associated with many of the CCPs, and the G22 rifle are all indications of a lack of design and quality control at Umarex Central. At the same time, the P5 doesn't qualify in the inferior category. It remains as Walther's ultimate achievement.
 
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As noted above, if you check the markings on your PPS you'll see it was made at the Walther factory in Ulm, Germany. Walther USA of Fort Smith, Arkansas is merely the importer, and before that Smith & Wesson.
 
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I wish the P5 Compact was still in production, even if it was an assuredly inferior US-made reproduction model out of Fort Smith, AR.

That there was one fine pistol that I'd love to carry, but wouldn't have the heart to when they're no longer in production, frequently costly to obtain, and extremely difficult to replace in the event that something wears out, or God forbid, ends up confiscated by the Police in the event that it is used to fend off an attacker.
 
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The P5 and PPS both have an excellent reputation. I was never that interested in the P5 but when I came across a gently used one at a good price I decided to see if it was as great as everyone said it was. It has exceeded my every expectation.

If anything, the trend for Walther over the last few years has been positive. The P99 and PPQ have both been very successful.
 
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"gerald" merely seeks to enlist discourse out of an obviously misguided and/or inept proposition. Some have taken the bait; it'll be interesting to see if his/her first post on the forum will be the last.
I'm suspecting likewise. It's hard to fathom someone owning a PPS and not even knowing from whence it came. That information is stamped right on the pistol.
 
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Fixed it for you.

It seemed a good design but shot discracefully, rediculously, pathetically, contemptibly @ 15yds.
"It has a good design, but I shot disgracefully, embarrassing myself and needlessly impugning what is arguably Walther's best release in the last two years."

Where is the picture of the Walther guy shooting the minute of dead group at 99 feet?
 
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Indeed, the original post seems almost like trolling, to some obscure end. Exhibit A: an inaccuarate and/or imprecise P5? No such P5 exists (he says, having taken the bait). And we all know where P5s were made, regardless of importer. I took the second part of the 'bait' to be about the PP, and not the PPS. Either way, there is no such American-made beast. I wouldn't bet again Pilotsteve's speculation about this one... ;)
 
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