[imaoldfart]

OK, I have no doubt NE dropped his P99C and wound up getting shot in the calf. The question is, how in the cornbread 8ell did this happen? We'll probably never know.

What's happened here is we've probably run off a long-time member. Will he ever come back to this forum? Maybe not.....I know I'd not be inclined to.

Ya know.....years ago, we were cleaning up after supper and my 10 year old son was washing the dishes. I was doing the drying. He picked up a glass to wash it and is slipped out of his hand.....his instincts told him to reach/grab for it at the same time I was yelling 'NO' .... it was too late, the glass hit the sink and broke as he was trying to grab it. Yep, he cut his finger.

Moral to that story is, sometimes your instincts take over and cloud 'good judgment'. And, many times someone can not actually recall the exact chain of events. Just sayin'.

Was there an instinctive 'grab' made for the falling gun? Did a finger nick the trigger in the process? Only his hair dresser knows.

Any time I'm packin', and have to do my business, I carefully place my hand around the gun/holster/belt/pants and lower very deliberately and slowly....making sure I place the wad of pants and pistol properly. When I'm finished, its the same thing in reverse order. So far, that's worked for me.

 

[Milspec]

Well said. We've taken this as far as it can go without additional information.

 

[thorn]

It's certainly possible that the OP accidentally pulled the trigger in a subconscious effort to catch it.

It's also possible the trigger snagged on some clothing as it dropped.

Finally, it's ALSO possible that his weapon was not in proper working order... these are mechanical devices, and require proper maintenance and care.

Without being able to closely examine the weapon, all of our input is simply conjecture, as the first 2 possibilities require witnessing the event.

If the weapon did indeed fail in some way, it would be to our benefit as a community to know the particulars. So let's not just jump to conclusions as to what did or didn't happen yet.

 

[UniversalExports]

Wow. Five pages of speculation based upon one incomplete and, to date, unclarified post.

I just knew there was a reason I was avoiding commenting until now.

 

[aklim69]

If he got shot, unless it is a ricochet, one would think the muzzle faces upwards while the gun falls downwards so wouldn't it have to fall UPWARDS to snag on something to pull the trigger?

 

[balance]

Without being able to closely examine the weapon, all of our input is simply conjecture, as the first 2 possibilities require witnessing the event.

If the weapon did indeed fail in some way, it would be to our benefit as a community to know the particulars. So let's not just jump to conclusions as to what did or didn't happen yet.

I completely agree, which is why I was asking questions.

I read a lot of threads on this forum which mention changing the characteristics of the trigger pull by, bending parts, cutting coils off of firing pin block springs, changing the shape of the sear, installing lighter striker springs, etc. I'd like to know if this pistol was "factory". If it was not, while it is possible that the pistol went off simply from being dropped from waist high, I have my doubts. At least two safety features must have been broken, missing, or malfunctioning in order for this to happen.

 

[chandler5566]

As the OP has not responded perhaps this would be a good time to close the thread?

 

[olstyn]

I see threads like this from time to time and it's always amazing....what I'll call fanboys.....can't take a man at his word. I'm not calling any Members here a liar especially when I wasn't there.

The problem is that the OP is two lines of text which barely demonstrate proficiency with the English language and provide near zero detail on the incident in question, and that the poster has not come back to answer any of the (IMO legitimate) questions that have been raised. As BlitzPig said, it *feels* very much like a trolling and/or astroturfing attempt. I'm not claiming that that's what happened, but the tone and the "drive-by" nature of it make it feel that way.

OK, everyone with a P99c, load er up....put your shootin' hand on top of the muzzle and let's go out and bang the pistol up and down to make sure all those safeties work 100% of the time.....every time. I'll wait for your reports. I personally don't count on any safety to be 100% reliable. Firearms are dangerous and need to be handled with respect at all times regardless of number of safeties. A little dirt here, a lack of lubrication there.....just sayin'. Plastic frames holding important parts I trust even less.

I don't think anyone has claimed that it's impossible for one or more safeties to fail, but as has been discussed, the pistol would have to have been cocked *and* have had 3 separate safeties and the sear all either fail or be disabled in order for the gun to fire without a foreign object interacting with the trigger. Occam's razor points to the idea that several people have suggested: an instinctive grab for the gun as it fell, causing a finger, thumb, or just some chunk of clothing or holster to get into the trigger guard, and then an unexpected and unintentional loud noise and a lot of pain. It's certainly not impossible that the OP told the whole story, but on the face of it, from a logical perspective, it seems unlikely.

As far as your ludicrous suggestion for testing goes, there's a much lower risk method; prime an empty case (or pull the bullet and powder from a loaded round), load that into the chamber, hold your hand *not* over the muzzle, and then smack back end of the slide into the table at the range. If you hear a pop, your gun failed. If not, it passed. You're still violating some basic safety rules, but at least you're not setting yourself up for serious pain and suffering if something goes wrong.

 

[Milspec]

Ok...closing time. We'll restart if the OP has additional information. Thank you.