Right now my PDP-f is my EDC but I'd buy a micro-9 from Walther in a heartbeat. Seems like it's a really popular type of pistol lately.
Any murmerings about Walther making a micro-9?
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You're not. Many like HKs second to Walther, and at least for me Sigs are beneath HK on the totem pole. LEM is hard to beat in a hammer configuration. Seems by the time they release it, someone will have leapfrogged the stack and a half design. May end up discontinued quickly
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I don't want to split hairs here (although it's too late, I think we're already at that point, LOL)
but... I respectfully disagree.
I believe the micro compact moniker is defined by the 1.5 stack design and the improved capacity it brings to very compact pistols. I've always made a distinction between "sub-compact" double-stacks like the G26/P99c/P224 and the "compact-single stack" carry guns like the G43/PPS/Shield by their magazine design. I had also never referred to the single stack guns as "micro-compacts*".
I'll admit the language around these guns is all very mushy so I don't like to get too hung up on it, but I'll appeal to authority and cite some gun reviews to back up my viewpoint.
The word "micro" doesn't even appear in any of these reviews from prominent publications for the PPSm2 whereas the SIG P365 gets micro right in the review title from those same publications.
Gun Review: Walther PPS M2 9mm - The Truth About Guns
If you want to shoot down a helicopter with a handgun (void where prohibited by law), carry a Walther PPK. James Bond did it in “Spectre” — despite the fact that the timelessly stylish .380 is now built-in Fort Smith, Arkansas. Wait. Is it? Unlike the movie’s plot, the whole thing’s a bit of a...
www.thetruthaboutguns.com
An Official Journal Of The NRA | Review: Walther PPS M2
Walther listened to its customers and updated its popular concealed-carry PPS handgun. The newer PPS M2 version is sure to satisfy armed citizens.
Walther PPS M2: Shootable Everyday Carry - Lucky Gunner Lounge
A thorough review of the Walther PPS M2 pistol. We include accuracy testing and a video detailing what this handgun offers.
www.luckygunner.com
Gun Review: SIG SAUER P365 Micro-Compact 9mm Pistol
Gun Review: SIG SAUER P365 Micro-Compact 9mm Pistol - The Truth About Guns
Our comprehensive review of the new Sig P365 9mm micro-compact with a focus on concealed carry.
www.thetruthaboutguns.com
An Official Journal Of The NRA | Review: SIG Sauer P365 Micro Compact
Deemed a "Micro Compact" concealed-carry gun, the SIG Sauer P365 is deceptively capacious. See how it works in our review.
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I read something that made sense to me in regards to this segment. The man was comparing various micro pistols and his rough criteria for consideration was.....
1. At least 10 round capacity
2. No more than 6 in. long
3. No more than 4 1/2 inches in height
4. No more than 1 in. thick.
I love my PPS M2, but with the 7 rd. mag (my favorite) it's too tall (4.9 in.) for the "micro" category. And barely qualifies with the six rounder. They say it shoots like a bigger gun. Well.....
It is!
1. At least 10 round capacity
2. No more than 6 in. long
3. No more than 4 1/2 inches in height
4. No more than 1 in. thick.
I love my PPS M2, but with the 7 rd. mag (my favorite) it's too tall (4.9 in.) for the "micro" category. And barely qualifies with the six rounder. They say it shoots like a bigger gun. Well.....
It is!
Multiple PDP's and PPQ's, some other Walther's, and some lesser brands as well
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I also prefer the 7 round magazine, but it makes it just barely too big for IDPA's BUG division. If I run it with 6 round mags, then it will barely fit the BUG dimensions, but then I'm at a disadvantage against other BUG shooters with their tiny pistols that can still get that pinky on the frame. It's a shame that it's a nice little gun, but too big for the IDPA category that it should naturally fit in.
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Thanks for that great feedback. I actually purchased an 8 round mag to try a "big gun" grip without having to buy a bigger gun. And also to have enough mags and capacity to shoot an IDPA. While technically it fits my pinky better, I still prefer the 7 rounder. The 8 just feels a little bulky for carry. But if I had known the PPS M2 didn't fit in IDPA's boxes, I would've invested in another 7. Mags don't last forever anyway, and the 7 gives it perfect symmetrics, to boot.
Oh well, looks like I'll need another gun if I want to participate in IDPA. But on the bright side, it's nice having a good reason to be redundant. Not that gun enthusiasts really need one. LOL
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I wish everybody would stop kind of whining. Most of millenia has managed to get by without having a micro compact anything. Let alone 18 shots worth. Now it seems no one is worthy of going into the OK Corral without a RPG.
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Valid. But I think a big concern is that the pistol and shooting associations ban lower capacity pistols from competing. Whether people want to or care about having high capacity, the goal posts move without you. It makes sense to compete with the gun you carry instead of some 4lb monstrosity with a 2 oz trigger and a C More rifle dot on it
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It is the #1 selling gun in America and across multiple running years....
I hope they really look at all the choices and come up with something great. Two things I would love to see. The first is a grip a tad bigger in girth to enhance shootability, and control. The P365 is too small and the little bit of girth added on their macro frame is just fat enough without being too fat. Secondly, is a trigger system for concealed carry. I think an AS system like that on my M3 is ideal, though that one specifically is a bit too heavy in compliance with European LEO standards for pull weight.
I had no idea Walther was thinking of another mini-9. I had the PPS and then PPS M2 but nowadays carry the Shield Plus when I want a mini. Shield Plus with the shortest mag barely fits in the IDPA box for Back Up Gun category, so I hope that Walther (and HK, if they ever actually release the SFP CC) think about that.
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I put another two hundred rounds through it and, remarkably, it shoots a lot better. It is now shooting as nice as the P365. Maybe I just willed it to shoot better! I still don’t understand how Walther didn’t design a stack and half magazine . The big difference between the PPS and P365 is the mag well. The 365 uses every millimeter of space. The PPS has plenty of extra space in the well. What happened to that great German engineering? Imagine Walther designs a 10+ magazine that would fit the PPS M2! They don’t have to design a whole new gun, just the mag.
Sounds like the Ruger Max9 fits the bill to a tee.
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I think @Mattyd380 might have an interesting update for us....? 🤔
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Ha. Thanks for the plug
It's nothing that hasn't come up here before... but I figured I'd just consolidate all of the "speculative recon" into a video. And it's getting a __it ton of views, so far. Which is cool.
Again, it's mainly speculative. But the schematics are pretty cool to look at, if you haven't had a chance to nerd out on Walther patents yet.
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@Mattyd380 spill the beans, mister!
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