[rfd339]

Thanks for sharing the information. Very interesting for sure.

 

[Kar98]

Ha. Thanks for the plug

It's nothing that hasn't come up here before... but I figured I'd just consolidate all of the "speculative recon" into a video. And it's getting a __it ton of views, so far. Which is cool.

Again, it's mainly speculative. But the schematics are pretty cool to look at, if you haven't had a chance to nerd out on Walther patents yet.

LOL, the serial of my PPS M1 is nine away from yours.

 

[Jimmo952]

Interesting sleuthing.

Thanks for sharing.

You'd have to think registering the patents and trademarks was for a good reason.

 

[Floridaman]

PDK is definitely a better deduction than the ‘Ft. Smith Fingerlin’

I hope they do the central slide rail!

 

[Jimmo952]

If the gun as shown in the schematic comes to fruition, it will certainly be mechanically unique.

I'm not aware of another centerfire pistol using a center rail like that.

The dual feedramp is pretty rare as well.

I'm assuming this is being done to maximize capacity for the size????

If this is what Walther is working on, it's definitely not a "me too" design.

 

[Mattyd380]

If the gun as shown in the schematic comes to fruition, it will certainly be mechanically unique.

I'm not aware of another centerfire pistol using a center rail like that.

The dual feedramp is pretty rare as well.

I'm assuming this is being done to maximize capacity for the size????

If this is what Walther is working on, it's definitely not a "me too" design.

Yeah, it’s definitely not a “me too” based on this.

The dual feed ramp is the biggest mystery, in my mind. Yeah, I think dual-position feed would give you a few extra rounds. But they also have a patent/sketch on a new mag design… but it’s single feed. So, not sure how to reconcile those things.

 

[Jimmo952]

Yeah, it’s definitely not a “me too” based on this.

The dual feed ramp is the biggest mystery, in my mind. Yeah, I think dual-position feed would give you a few extra rounds. But they also have a patent/sketch on a new mag design… but it’s single feed. So, not sure how to reconcile those things.

Interesting. I didn't realize the new mag design was single feed. Hmmmmm

 

[Mattyd380]

Interesting. I didn't realize the new mag design was single feed. Hmmmmm

Yeah. That’s one thing that’s not really adding up. Though I suppose the single-feed mag patent could be unrelated to this gun. Maybe the dual-feed system originates from some other patent? Or just doesn’t need a patent?

Wanton speculation—I really have no idea.

Though I did look closer at a few other things in the design…

It looks like the extractor uses an internal spring—like, the spring is literally inside the extractor claw. I didn’t catch that, initially. Apparently this allows the claw to be mounted closer to the barrel, helping reduce slide width.

Also, it looks like the barrel lockup might be reminiscent of what’s on the Kimber Mako; more of a squared lug that locks into the slide above the chamber. I think that’s a Wilhelm Bubits design?

Interesting stuff. But who knows if we’ll actually see all of the above in one pistol.

 

[Jimmo952]

Yeah. That’s one thing that’s not really adding up. Though I suppose the single-feed mag patent could be unrelated to this gun. Maybe the dual-feed system originates from some other patent? Or just doesn’t need a patent?

Wanton speculation—I really have no idea.

Though I did look closer at a few other things in the design…

It looks like the extractor uses an internal spring—like, the spring is literally inside the extractor claw. I didn’t catch that, initially. Apparently this allows the claw to be mounted closer to the barrel, helping reduce slide width.

Also, it looks like the barrel lockup might be reminiscent of what’s on the Kimber Mako; more of a squared lug that locks into the slide above the chamber. I think that’s a Wilhelm Bubits design?

Interesting stuff. But who knows if we’ll actually see all of the above in one pistol.

Interesting.

The Mako is indeed a Bubits design. I think Kimber bought it off him.

 

[Jimmo952]

Interesting.

The Mako is indeed a Bubits design. I think Kimber bought it off him.

The center rail idea is also about reducing slide width.

Walther thinking outside the box on how to build a narrow pistol.

Definitely not a me too attempt.

 

[Floridaman]

And here we are just hoping they make a PPS with a few more rounds. Walthers pulling what Henry Ford did on the horse and buggy world on the compact pistol one. Burning all my p365s in the backyard right now

 

[BlitzPig]

I just purchased a new PPK, so I'll be on the sidelines for a while, but I am watching this with great interest.

 

[Bigborgel]

@Mattyd380 spill the beans, mister!

Build me a Ruger MAX 9 with a blocky slide

 

[Cuda360]

If the gun as shown in the schematic comes to fruition, it will certainly be mechanically unique.

I'm not aware of another centerfire pistol using a center rail like that.

The dual feedramp is pretty rare as well.

I'm assuming this is being done to maximize capacity for the size????

If this is what Walther is working on, it's definitely not a "me too" design.

Center rail would be interesting. Not quite sure on how that would work or how solid a foundation that would be for a moving slide under pressure.

 

[Twobits]

If Walther ever comes out with a micro 9 that holds a minimum of 10 rounds of ammo in the magazine I will be one of the first in line to buy one. I just bought a Ruger Max 9 because I love micro 9s and it can hold 12 rounds in the extended magazine. It also has an optic cut in the slide and I have a Readydot from Ruger for it. But would dump something in my gun case to buy a Walther micro 9.

 

[BlitzPig]

Center rail would be interesting. Not quite sure on how that would work or how solid a foundation that would be for a moving slide under pressure.

Looking closely at the patent diagram will reveal that the rails on the front of the pistol are in a standard location on the sides of the slide. So in essence this is a 3 rail pistol.

 

[Jimmo952]

Looking closely at the patent diagram will reveal that the rails on the front of the pistol are in a standard location on the sides of the slide. So in essence this is a 3 rail pistol.

It's an interesting design with some out of the box thinking.

They've put some thought into how a build a slim handgun.

Hopefully it sees the light of day.

 

[Cuda360]

Looking closely at the patent diagram will reveal that the rails on the front of the pistol are in a standard location on the sides of the slide. So in essence this is a 3 rail pistol.

I read through the summary section in the patent submission. Walther states that the center rail was to accommodate a “double stack” magazine and keep the slide thin. I’m starting to get real interested in this now!

 

[1776_]

If Walther ever comes out with a micro 9 that holds a minimum of 10 rounds of ammo in the magazine I will be one of the first in line to buy one. I just bought a Ruger Max 9 because I love micro 9s and it can hold 12 rounds in the extended magazine. It also has an optic cut in the slide and I have a Readydot from Ruger for it. But would dump something in my gun case to buy a Walther micro 9.

Ruger's carry guns are a little bit underrated. I also like that they are forward-thinking w/that optic but it might have needed to cook a bit longer. For 100 bucks though, it's whatever. Let us know what you think.

 

[Twobits]

Ruger's carry guns are a little bit underrated. I also like that they are forward-thinking w/that optic but it might have needed to cook a bit longer. For 100 bucks though, it's whatever. Let us know what you think.

Mine had optic included and got it used for $310. It is in good shape. Only wish is that optic would be adjustable for point of impact.