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To every "rule", there is an exception........

 

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The prior post pic made me think of this......

 

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DA/SA hammer guns have a few characteristics that LEO/Military have come to find undesirable. The striker gun resolves these issues.


The heavy DA pull is a nice feature that reduces accidental discharge (AD), we can all agree on that.
This "feature" becomes an issue when the operator is in a stressful situation, with a cocked hammer, and puts his finger inside the trigger guard/goes on trigger. Plenty of ADs/accidental shootings (AS) have been attributed to thinking "DA trigger" while handling a gun in "SA trigger" condition.
There is also the act of inexperienced operators "throwing away" the first DA shot in a stressful situation, because their lack of training with the DA/SA platform leaves them with little ability in DA mode. It would take untold millions of dollars in time/ammo/training to get the US Military/US LEOs proficient in DA/SA sidearms.



It's much easier to train "booger hook" outside the trigger guard until ready to fire (striker gun), then proper DA/SA etiquette. The consistent trigger pull of strike fire guns does away with the "first shot throw away" issue too.



Don't get me started on DA/SA hammer guns with manual safety. A next level item for "assumption of condition" causing ADs & ASs.

 

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Did I miss a post in this thread???


I didn't see anyone shoveling dirt on hammer fired handguns.


The topic, "Will WALTHER ever produce another hammer fired pistol", in NO way decides the life/death of the hammer.

 

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Quote; "I can break my guns down in about the time it took you to read this sentence, maybe less.

Try that with a 1911

Then again, the 1911 is from a time when men had balls and respect, and those times are long gone..."


That last sentence is exactly why I purchased a Para 14.45 GI Expert for myself (birthday last year). Every handgun collection needs a 1911, and every handgun enthusiast needs to know how to disassemble/reassemble one WITHOUT causing the idiot scratch.


Just grabbed my 2019 B'day gun, the POF AR-10 in .308, another gun from the "balls and respect" era (mid/late 1950s).

 

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You F'ed Lord Vader???

 

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Sorry, but that was directed more towards this comment:

"The day of the double/single action has come and gone"

I'm not alone with the group that prefers SA/DA "hammer-fired" pistols.

I bought a G23C around the turn of the century, and although I liked it, I never really fell in love with it. It might have been the "spongy" trigger or the ergonomics of a 2"x4", but it never really felt like it was an extension of me.

It wasn't until I bought a PPQ that I found a striker-fired pistol I loved. Now if I was using it for competition, would go with whatever I liked shooting the most (which at this time would be my PPQ), but give me something with a decocker or an external manual safety for my CC pistol. They just add an additional layer of safety while carrying with "one in the pipe."

No worries. I actually missed that "The day of the double/single action has come and gone" comment while skimming this thread. My bad.


I actually EDC my PPQ 45, and ALWAYS maintain STRICT trigger discipline. The Q45 replace a Sig Sauer 227.


FWIW, hammer guns outnumber striker guns (by over 5 to 1) in my handgun collection. Yet my favorite shooter is the HK P7M13 striker (a better shooter/more accurate then my fully bench tuned Wilson Combat 92G Brigadier Tactical).

 

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I hope they continue to make hammer fired pistols. I know it's ridiculous, but I just cannot get comfortable with striker fired pistols, I just don't trust them and I don't know if I ever will.

There is ONE striker fired handgun in my collection that I feel TOTALLY comfortable around with a round chambered. Funny how the first striker handgun was the safest IMHO.


Well, technically two, the P7 M13 shooter and the P7 M13 safe queen........