Fired my new PPS for the second time after work today. There is now about 400 flawless rounds through it. It's a sweet and smooth little shooter. My only gripe which bothers me a little bit, is the trigger still has a subtle "crunchy" spot right before it breaks and fires. Will this go away with wear and useage?
Will the "crunchy" trigger go away?
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A striker spring that is "serpentining" enough to push hard against the side of the slide/striker housing will definitely cause grittiness during the trigger pull of a partially cocked gun. Perhaps some striker springs serpentine more than others, thus creating a difference in smoothness between different PPSs.
The other source of grittiness in striker fire guns is the striker block safety hole not being smoothly bored out. Push the striker block from an angle to detect any grittiness in it.
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Good suggestion. I didn't think to check that initially so I went back to see how smooth mine operated. At least in my PPS, that was fine and most of the problem does seem to lie in the striker and spring and everything in contact with it. The cleaning and Frog Lube treatment seems to have smoothed things out, at least when I dry-fire it. I won't really know for sure until I go back to the range.
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Read this:
http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/faq-pps/8904-walther-pps-observations.html
And this:
http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/faq-pps/20527-smothing-out-trigger-uptake.html
Then try disassembling the striker assembly. Clean, polish, and dry lube the striker. Reassemble paying attention to the position of the keeper and guide. Rotating how these pieces align can influence how the spring deflects as it compresses during trigger pull.
You may still feel grit in the trigger bar (which dry fire will help). If you feel "crunch" or stacking in the spring, disassemble and rotate the alignment with the striker guide to find the optimum position. My trigger is a bit spongy, but it is smooth and I can feel the "set".
http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/faq-pps/8904-walther-pps-observations.html
And this:
http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/faq-pps/20527-smothing-out-trigger-uptake.html
Then try disassembling the striker assembly. Clean, polish, and dry lube the striker. Reassemble paying attention to the position of the keeper and guide. Rotating how these pieces align can influence how the spring deflects as it compresses during trigger pull.
You may still feel grit in the trigger bar (which dry fire will help). If you feel "crunch" or stacking in the spring, disassemble and rotate the alignment with the striker guide to find the optimum position. My trigger is a bit spongy, but it is smooth and I can feel the "set".
I have nothing real substantial to add, except to say that my trigger has always been good and improved further with range time. Sure, it's not as smooth as my bigger guns, but we'll be comparing oranges to apples at that point.
For smaller CCW, it's better than all others out there that I've tried. You should try LCP/PF9/DB9 and see how much worse horrible triggers on small guns CAN be (not to mention horrible recoil).
For smaller CCW, it's better than all others out there that I've tried. You should try LCP/PF9/DB9 and see how much worse horrible triggers on small guns CAN be (not to mention horrible recoil).
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BamaPPQ.. It's not really an issue and online forums tend to blow these 'issues' up more then they are.
I own 2 of then now and both triggers are good. Are they great? Certainly not and I don't expect it to be. Can't say I'm disappointed with it at all. They had some grittiness at the start but I could feel a difference after 200-300 rounds. Personally I found that at about 700 they started to smooth out nicely. I've never experienced the triggers not wanting to reset.
I've fired a good number of other small compacts and subcompacts and the trigger in the PPS is by far better then most others. It's still not close to the Q trigger unfortunately.
I own 2 of then now and both triggers are good. Are they great? Certainly not and I don't expect it to be. Can't say I'm disappointed with it at all. They had some grittiness at the start but I could feel a difference after 200-300 rounds. Personally I found that at about 700 they started to smooth out nicely. I've never experienced the triggers not wanting to reset.
I've fired a good number of other small compacts and subcompacts and the trigger in the PPS is by far better then most others. It's still not close to the Q trigger unfortunately.
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So why didn't you buy the PPS instead?
The PPS was in 40 cal. I wanted a 9mm. I really wanted to compare the PPS , Shield , and XDS 9 side by side before making a decision but that could take years. Nobody ever had more than two of the three at the same time. In fact i have only seen and held one Shield but it belonged to an employee at the range and i thought it bad etiquette to dry fire it. About the only thing that stood out about the XDS 9 over the PPS was that it was about $70 cheaper and it comes with two flush fitting 7 round magazines. The XDS has a really good trigger. I'm an XD guy also so it was making sense to just stay within the same platform.
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In answer to the OP, no, never, crunchless for me.
Now, in the absence of a specific and universally accepted definition of the type firing mechanism the PPS has, I will simply stick with my interpretation; a striker fired semi-auto pistol that fires in DAO mode.
Now, in the absence of a specific and universally accepted definition of the type firing mechanism the PPS has, I will simply stick with my interpretation; a striker fired semi-auto pistol that fires in DAO mode.
Mine has smoothed out but has not totally gotten rid of that 'crunchy hint' partway toward the rear. I think its inherent, the striker indicator spring is in that plastic housing and I think that might be culprit. I took it out, and had a q-tip with a hint of CLP on it and gave it a few plunges down there inside the striker indicator plastic housing to make sure it was free from any thing. Poked a dry q-tip down there to get it all nice and dry, reasembled and knew it was the best I could get it. If that is in fact the source of the sound...I dont see how it can fundamentally get rid of the gritty sound if you have it. Mine has subsided but has never totally gone away..it seems inherent with the compression of the spring that likely rubs against the plastic inner when it bunches during compression (all guessing here, take my assumptions lightly)
Gotta say, with how 'pedestrian' the PPS trigger feels to me, the darn gun is hella-accurate. It seems to be quite sweet despite the ho-hum trigger. And the 'ho-hum' trigger does predictably exactly what its supposed to everytime. It's 'unremarkable-ness' works quite well.
Gotta say, with how 'pedestrian' the PPS trigger feels to me, the darn gun is hella-accurate. It seems to be quite sweet despite the ho-hum trigger. And the 'ho-hum' trigger does predictably exactly what its supposed to everytime. It's 'unremarkable-ness' works quite well.
Check your numbers on the box. It sounds like you made a mistake as i did. I wanted pps so much i never did my home work. I bought a Massachussets complaint with 11lb trigger. Check your disconnecter. If it has H letter stamped on it that means heavy treager. If you see S that means standard.
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That's correct. The Mass-compliant ones have a heavier trigger pull and are marked as such.
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Mines marked with an "S", so I'm good.
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