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DWX Compact....They got it right, mostly!

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After my experiences with the Staccato in the other thread, I sold it as quickly as I could, and picked up a Dan Wesson DWX Compact. I've been wanting one since they announced back in 2019, and the compact started showing up in June. I do have a full-size on order that is getting "the works" done at Cajun Gun Works, but this one I wanted to spend some time with before I do anything to it.

For me, combine the DW Pointman-9 and the CZ-75, and you are combining the best features of two of my all-time favorite production guns. For me, who has a fair amount of custom 1911's, and a few 2011's, this combo tends to blur the line between production and custom. Personally, for me, the thin grips, and beavertail really suit my high grip, and what I love is no grip safety. Typically on my comp guns I'd pin the grip safety to disable it, but I'd rather just not have something that I'm not using.

I had to go digging back, but I shoot this better than any of the comparable Wilson's that I had run in the past, smaller 2011's, it just feels right in my hand. Being fair, I probably had 150k rounds thru a couple of CZ-Shadow's when I was competing, so its instantly familiar, and that's probably the biggest reason this one feels like it belongs in my hand, and I was instantly comfortable with it. After about 300 rounds, I started to ramp up splits and transitions, and was running .15-.18, but my transitions were slow, in the .4 range. The issue for me are the sights. I really hate the rear battlehook u-shaped sight. I've never been a fan, and would really prefer a square rear sight, and probably a front fiber optic, with some room. For a defensive gun, just square off the rear sight. Also, I know they had this design in 2019, but no idea why they didn't take the time to design the slide with an optic plate. To put one on, gotta mill the slide. I'm not entirely against the idea, but not having the optic plate is definitely a mistake. (My 2 cents at least)

While I absolutely could carry this, and probably will at some time when there are some more holster offerings available, I'll continue for now with my little Canik MC9. Cheaper than the comparable 2011 models, and the Wilson offerings, but still substantially more expensive than polymer options. Somehow I think that the compact should be priced cheaper than the full-size, because there aren't enough fanboys (like me) who will go out and buy this one. The other advantage is the magazines run $25 to $30 for the CZ 75 Compact's that it uses. Hell of a lot less that I was paying for 2011 mag's.

Some decisions on sights, plus considering letting CGW do their trigger work on this guy, but honestly? This trigger is great out of the box, not sure $300 is worth it to make it "stupid good", especially for something I'm considering as a carry gun. It's got easy accuracy, yes, better than pretty much every polymer gun I've run, and I think it'll compare at least with some of the custom's, at a fraction of the price (still way too much money.) About 800 rounds total thru it, it's ran flawlessly so far, zero failure to feed or extract.

I can see this rapidly becoming an absolute all-time favorite for me. Definitely has me excited for the Cajunized full-size that's going to be on the way fairly soon.

I hate saying it, but for me, just for me, this gun delivered on the four year delay, and it's everything that Staccato claims that they are, but this just does it better. Again, my two cents, I can see why people like the Staccato, but this one just fits...perfectly.


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Oh and if ATF or a .gov agency ever reads it, this is was just my thoughts about it before that horrible boating accident that ended with all of my firearms at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico. My new standard disclaimer! 😂
 
Discussion starter · #3 ·
I was in the same boat, I wanted it pretty badly when they were showing the concept, and then if I'm honest, completely forgot about it for a few years. I'd thought that it had been abandoned, or just would never see the light of day, and was pleasantly surprised to see it did make it out this year. Definitely a great concept, and It definitely has me wanting to pick up my full-size once its' done. The real shame, I think, is that it would have been a killer release a few years ago, but today I think it'll get lost in the sea of choices (and choices are a good thing) especially since I think some other companies market like crazy. (Of course some have to market because their product isn't so good, but that's a whole 'nother conversation!)
 
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I don't disagree too much.

Without knowing anything about margins, I think the price point on the full-size should have been around the TS2, or even TSO ($1400-$1800). The compact though definitely in the $1200-$1300 range, and for me, worth every penny. Even at what I paid, (and I paid about $300 less than list on a GB 12 hour auction) I'd take it over anything I can think of in the "mass production" group of firearms, for me, isn't anything even close, although I know that's premature to say, I'd like to see how it holds up at 5,000 and 10,000 rounds. My Shadow's broke multiple slide stops, and I had to do more replacing springs and other parts than most other handguns I've owned, but trade off was worth it. That said, I'm fully expecting it to need the same care and attention of my Shadow's, and that's definitely one thing that will change my opinion. Now give me a Hayes Custom, Clark, ACW, Volkmann Precision and now we are talking worth the price tag, again, for me.
 
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Today was my first "damnit" with the gun.

Went to practice with a friend, got about 250 rounds in, when I could clearly see that I was way off target. Front sight had damn near fallen off.

Have to take a look at it, but that's a problem, and one that I've read a few other people have had as well. Absolutely love the gun, until you shoot it, I don't think I understood how great the combo of 1911 and CZ75 design was. Yes, I thought it would be awesome, but shooting it just makes me smile.

Now to see what's up with the front sight, and more than likely deal with Dan Wesson.....
 
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Finally shot my DWX Compact yesterday. 150 rounds of flawless performance. I have a few other DW 1911's and they were very tight in the break-in process, but the Compact ran so smooth, it was like it was already broken in. I did the 50 round field strip and clean process, but I don't think it needed it. Overall impression is that it fits great in the hand and just flat out shoots. I brought my WC EDC X9 to compare it to and I like the feel of the DWX C better and it shoots softer for me. It does take the CZ 75 Compact magazines and I bought 3 extra and then had to buy 3 base pads from Hennings to work with these magazines as they are a lot thinner than the OEM CZ Compact base pads.
Good tip on the base pads, I'll have to do that for the extra mags that I picked up as well.

Glad your experience was very similar to mine. Still hurts to think that had they actually come out with it in 2019, it probably would have been a huge hit. I think it'll have its dedicated fans, more so in the competition shooting sport arena. It's just going to get lumped into quite a few other offerings from people that are in that same "class", are marketed better, and are doing well.
 
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Let me guess; while actually targeting swordfish of the standard size, you hooked a true beast. Estimated at 500# plus you soon learned she was too big to handle in your trailer boat. When you attempted to gaff while securely attached to the harpoon rode the boat listed nearly 45* and your entire firearm collection--that you were fondling while waiting for the pickup in 1900' of water--slid off the transom bait tank into the abyss. " No Virginia; she probably weighed closer to the magic half-ton; I was lucky to escape and salvage the boat!"
Gotta be good ya' know? With any luck the listener (s) will be dabbing their eyes...
Hopefully, come October, I'll be picking up my own 7511--DWCZ?

Call me Ishmael!

CZ/Wesson customer service did jump on it, Monday morning I had an e-mail, and FedEx label telling me to send the gun back for service. I thought about it, but elected to put a red dot on it, and since milling is more or less permanent marker.....

If the EPS carry dot can fit with a rear sight, then I'll pay Cajun to fix and put on a front sight, but right now not anticipating being able to fit the rear on. We'll know this time next week.
 
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Is it safe to say that this pistol is CZ's/Dan Wesson's version of the EDC 9?
I think that's the perfect comparison for the DWX Compact, to the EDC X9 4", CZ/Wesson are just doing it for $1100 or so less than the Wilson. Spec's and market are incredibly similar, both feel good in the hand. I shoot the DWX better than I did the EDC X9, but I'm going to attribute that to having the high CZ 75 round count. Probably equal there, and someone who has more rounds thru a Wilson will say that the Wilson shoots better, and I wouldn't argue that at all.

Had to laugh, yesterday Kygunco had the DWX Compact for $1564.99, not sure how many but they sold out in a few hours, because by the time I got home and thought about ordering a second, they were all gone, and the guys on 1911addicts had gobbled them up. That said, my project tomorrow is going to be taking a hard look thru the safe again, and maybe getting rid of a couple more pieces and picking up another one. I'm sure mileage will vary for everyone, but for me, damn near perfect fit.
 
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The EDC X9 4" is my idea of a perfect carry pistol, so this holds interest to me. I'll keep my eyes open and see if I can get a hold of one to shoot.

Thanks for the review.
Of course, I carried the SFX9 for quite awhile and thought it was one of the best handgun's that I owned.

I'll have to update this when it's back, and when I have closer to 5k rounds thru it. First impressions are great, but how it wears is going to be a big deal.
 
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Cajun Gun Works took care of front sight and milling on the EPS Carry dot for me, looks great, runs great, very happy overall with it. Now I can get busy putting some more rounds downrange, and getting some real feedback on it.

FYI...those guys are awesome! There are people you take your business to because they are good people, and the work they do is adequate. There are people you take business to because they do incredible work, but they are buttheads. Cajun is the best of the best, great people that you absolutely love, and they love their customers back, plus they do some fabulous work. (Plus they tolerated me in the shop, so they can't be all that bad!)
 
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Close to a year later....

Still enjoy the DWX Compact, still my primary EDC gun, and an absolute lot of use. Unlike other guns that I've carried, I've run this one in matches, practice sessions, and classes and gotten an awful lot of use out of it, not even close to the "seriously" competition years when I would drop 50k rounds, lol, this was about 18,000 rounds, and just sent it back to Cajun, have them take a look at everything, replace what needs to be replaced, and I'm genuinely curious to see how things have held up. Always liked my CZ Shadow's, but they had a lot of parts breakage, springs, and other small things, issues I didn't have while running an LTT Beretta.

With it going in, was looking around, considering buying a second this time optic ready. I was blown away by how much they are going for, and couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger on a new one. As much as I like the Compact, and how much I enjoy carrying it, I'd consider retiring it from competition, and just leaving it as a carry gun, and now maybe even just putting it in the safe, and bringing it out for range days. I'm about done shooting pistol in competition anyhow, I actually prefer PCC (yeah..sue me...lol, I always said I'd never be that guy, but damn, I was wrong, fun to shoot!). There are other guns that fill that DWX niche. If I want a 2011, then I'll buy a 2011, and go that route entirely. If I want something to carry, I could just as easily look at P-01, find a Rami, or even look at a Sig 229. All for less money, or that fill a specific niche.

If the DWX was priced $500 cheaper, then it would be a harder call. Maybe other guns aren't as as good, or fit quite as well, but the DWX isn't going to be $1000-$1200 better for me.

Love the gun, really do. No issues since the last update, would recommend it to anyone. At it's price point though, it definitely has a different set of competition, and I'm not sure if it holds up quite as well. Honestly, I like the Shadow 2 compact and awful lot, and it's $1000 less, and other than being DA/SA, it feels to be every bit as solid a gun as the DWX. That's where the DWX should be competing.
 
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Last month, I was mere inches away from swiping the card for a new optics ready DWX Compact w/ rail but the shop manager informed me of possible new Walther's before year's end and also showed me the CZ Shadow 2 Compact. Needless to say, I'm holding off on everything for now, except new HK's...

The CZ Shadow 2 Compact has very good reviews and the price is somehow lower than the DWX Compact... :unsure: :unsure:
Substantially cheaper!

The wife is dying to have one, since she stole my Shadow, then my Shadow 2, I get it.... and...I'll end up picking one up for her this week, since I see a few shops have them, and no idea when CZ will drop more. She's thinking about carrying it though, and that's just a big gun for her. Purse carry, Eh...okay, I get it, but on her person? That would be tough. She ran a Legion P229 today, that I thought she shot extremely well, and I almost thought she should jump on that instead, but didn't matter how well she did, and how much she liked it, she loves her Shadow's....

And of course, exquisite taste! Love some HK.. but other than getting her a Christmas present, think I'll end up waiting until January or February to find something new.
 
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I handled a Shadow 2 Compact recently, and it definitely has a lot of things going for it. But I just can't abide by the manual of arms. If they would just make that exact same model in a "B" decocker-only version, I'd probably already own one.
Decocker version would be nice.

For carry, the lack of a firing pin block is my biggest issue. Put that on, and I could live with current manual of arms, but without it, definitely wish it had the decocker. Great gun, and I'm sure some folks don't mind carrying it that way, but for me, that's why I see it still more as a fun/competition gun than a real carry choice like the P-01, or the 75D



EDIT...

I was absolutely wrong about the firing pin block. That just make it like any other 1911 or 2011 that I have carried in the past. The issue with it was more with lighter, aftermarket pins, and after it was modified. After talking with a few people who know a hell of a lot more than I do about the gun, they explained it, and at this point, I'd have zero issue carrying it. That said...I'd still rather carry hammer down for any DA/SA gun when possible, leaving SAO as the only time I want to have to use a safety.