OU, I have written this before that I have switched to Frog Lube & find it the best cleaner & lubricant on the market. It is non petroleum & is easy on plastic & painted parts like sites etc. It was developed & used by navy Seals & that says a lot. Look it up on the web.

 

I have tried any number of different cleaning and lubing regimes and always return to Ballistol.

Actually none of my PP have experienced anything else while in my ownership. It is easy to use, non harmful to my weapons or myself and after repeated use seems to make post range clean up a snap....and my bores shine like they have been waxed!

Just a few drops totally clean my weapons (including the bore) and I've never had issues with it as a lube although I've been know to use a tiny drop of Shooter's Choice All Weather Grease on the rails using a needle to place the drop on the rail to avoid excess.

I'm also a great fan of less is better and I run most weapons even long arms as dry as possible....

I've used other cleaners and lubes on other weapons including my P99c AS and just don't like the results....I may try Frog Lube on the P99 soon just to see how it works, but my feeling is that something better be really good if I'm going to switch.

But there are always new products coming out (like Frog Lube) and I'd also be interested in what folks are doing and why...

 

Olsoul, I have never tried Ballistol & have heard a lot of good things about it. It must be a lot like Frog Lube. Is it non petroleum? Not that that matters to me but a lot of the other stuff eats up the non metal parts of your gun. Let me know what you think.

 

gene,
Ballistol was developed for use my the German military. They wanted one product to protect metal, wood, leather and minor cuts and scratches on the soldiers themselves...Ballistol actually does these things. Heck, I use it on my oak furniture and the wife doesn't smack me if I clean my weapons at the kitchen table.

It has been around since about 1900 (might be off a few years) but many PPs have been exposed to nothing else and seem to be holding up nicely...and it smells great...licorice...it is oil based but in Europe it is used internally as well as externally for minor injuries.

 

olsoul, That does sound interesting & seems to have a lot of similarity to frog lube. I will try some but it would be hard to leave frog lube. It is a real pleasure to use.

I never liked the oil & grease & smell that went with a lot of clp's. I am not touchy about oil & grease either.

 

agree with OU812 switched to frog lube and will never go back. stuff does what it says and smells great too. my Beretta 950 runs like a sewing machine with the stuff

 

+1 Ballistol. Non-petroleum (coal-based), non-toxic, pleasant smelling. Like Olsoul I too use a few smears of Shooters Choice, but on the innards of my wheel guns, places where one doesn't go very often.

 

I like Ballistol too, plus it's great on wood grips, leather. And it's virtually the original lube for some of these old guns.

 

So far it's Ballistol, Frog Lube and a dab of Shooters Choice grease on the rails.
On my last range trip, while clearing a jam that turned out to be bad range reload. The RSO field stripped my PPK/S and seen the red Shooters Choice syn. grease in my pistol.

He told me in no uncertain terms, to take it home and clean that crap out. Not to use grease in my gun, on the slide or any place else.

His highness gave me some Militec lube and said this is the stuff.

I cleaned that "crap" out and used the Militec. I have not been to the range sense, but I'll let you know how it does.

 

Ballistol; a little goes a long, long way and it will not damage anything including the house furniture. Cleans and lubes tremendously. I use it on everything from revolvers to semi auto pistols, bolt guns, assault rifles, shotguns, subguns, suppressors and all my blades be they hundreds of years old or brand new. Not one complaint to lodge with the product after close to twenty years of use.

 

Does anyone else still use Gunslick on all steel autos? It's the only thing that will stay where you want it on a 100 degree day. The other stuff I've tried just runs off like a light oil in the heat.

 

Ballistol has not been lacking for me in our 100 plus summer heat. Stays where it needs to on my weapons. Never tried Gunslick.

 

One more vote for Ballistol it is the only thing I have ever used on my Walthers or sigs it is just the bomb .my origional source for this wonderful product said said he had used it for years and what sold him was the salesman opened a can poured it in a glass and then drank it , creeped the crap out of me but as he said I had small kids I wanted something safe it doesn't get much safer than that, check it out on the Internet multiple uses .It sure does make my plants leaves shiny and my pistoles too. ayb

 

Thumbs up for Ballistol as well. It is a fantastic product that has proved its efficiency since 1900.

I also use another product called Neoval. This company is based in Switzerland and it is a family owned business. Neoval is very similar and the equivalent of Ballistol. It works just great at a lower cost.

Schiesssport & Waffen

For my straight pull action K31 Swiss rifle, I use a transparent grease called Automatenfett, which is what the Swiss military has been using for at least 75 years, if not even longer. Not to mention that we get it for free at any military arsenals if we need some. The Automatenfett is a cleaner, a lubricant and a storage grease that works very efficiently. Automatenfett literally means "grease for automatic weapon" and it is similar to a molly type grease, but it is a bit different. It never gunks and it is very smooth on bolts action rifles, modern semi-auto rifles and any steel and polymer wonder pistols.

Frog Lube is quite expensive here, and in all honesty, I was not sold on it. It is just another novelty product like many others available out there to me. If a good old-fashioned oil cleans and lubricates with excellent results, why bother changing for the latest and greatest gun cleaner. Ballistol, Neoval and the Automatenfett have been out for man years. Then again, why changing over and over. Apparently with Frog Lube, you need to use a source of heat like a hair dryer for example. Do soldiers in the field use a dryer to clean their weaponry? C'mon, it is just another marketing strategy to sell a cleaner and lubricant.

Gun cleaning and maintenance is not supposed to be that complicated, it must be simple, efficient and fun activity to do after each range session.

 

Lube

I had a conversation with another member, ShoreShooter, about cleaning and lube.
He has switched to Mil-Comm. It's a syn. three part cleaner, oil and grease. He uses it in his PPK/S and says he is real satisfied with this.

It has taken care of issues he was having during break-in period.

 

This Sticky thread ...

http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/...ms.com/forum/faq-pp-tp/27159-cleaning-storing-1941-all-other-pp-ppk-models.html

... in the FAQ section should be of interest.

 

Ballistol also works great on holsters it neutralizes the acidity in the leather and makes the leather neutral and safe for storage of the gun it was designed to carry and protect .It keeps the leather supple and prevents it from drying out, this info is included in the paperwork that comes with the can and is also available on their web sight it has a host of other uses as well it helps keep the skin soft around cuts so they heal faster cause they don't keep breaking open from shrinking when they dry out .ayb

 

Range trip #3

I took my S&W PPK/S to the range today. I shot 75 rounds of Remington UMC without a failure of any kind.
This was also my first time using Militec lube.
I field stripped the pistol and it hardly looked dirty at all. And I don't know why.
There was a new RSO there today, his highness was not, and he helped me with my grip.
Boy, did that help ! Just a small adjustment, and my groups got smaller.
I don't know if the Militec lube had anything to do with the way my weapon ran today.

But I have found my new snake oil.

By the way, this is the coolest pistol that was ever made !!!!