That's a fair observation on all points, PX15, though I wonder if the same logic could be applied, say, 50 years down the road when your son or daughter pulls your NIB PPS FE out of the gun safe and lists it on the equivalent of Gunsamerica for ... who knows how much more than today's $575 or even $800 asking price? Don't you wish you had bought that NIB PPK or PP or P5 or whatever 15 years ago or 20 years ago or 25 years ago for the then outrageous price of ... what? an eighth of what it's worth today? And in the meantime, of course, you'd have the pleasure of owning a quality firearm through the intervening years, knowing that its value will always climb.Maybe it's just the old fart in me but I don't need a FE Walther at a fair price, much less that the $800 price gouging as advertised..
The FE's (sorry if you already have one) are "prone" to be more problemmatic as any first run of anything might be.
The FE's finish is apparently flaking off, it's a known problem, and sooner or later you'd have an all black one anyway.
I'll just sit back and wait until the supply increases, the prices stablize at a what I consider a reasonable price (And I don't think $579 is out of line too much) and buy one.
For anyone who might have more money than I (probably 99% of you) and you need a flaking FE @ $800.00, I'm glad one is waiting for you.
My Walther P99c/AS will hold me just fine until then.
That's a fair observation on all points, PX15, though I wonder if the same logic could be applied, say, 50 years down the road when your son or daughter pulls your NIB PPS FE out of the gun safe and lists it on the equivalent of Gunsamerica for ... who knows how much more than today's $575 or even $800 asking price? Don't you wish you had bought that NIB PPK or PP or P5 or whatever 15 years ago or 20 years ago or 25 years ago for the then outrageous price of ... what? an eighth of what it's worth today? And in the meantime, of course, you'd have the pleasure of owning a quality firearm through the intervening years, knowing that its value will always climb.
You can say exactly the same thing about any gun on the market right now, regardless of when it was made, from Colt to Ruger to Walther. What makes one P38 worth more than another today, beyond its overall condition condition? What makes a first generation Colt SAA worth more than a second generation, or a third? Doubtless in the years ahead, some other way of making firearms -- some new wonderproduct or alloy or metal or plastic or polymer or whatever -- will come along and distinguish the new models of tomorrow from what we all take for granted now.I have a hard time believing that any plastic gun --assuming the model remains in production-- is EVER going to be worth more than one paid for it at retail, discounting of course the march of monetary inflation. It comes out of a mold; what is there to distinguish it?
(I won't be around 50 years from now, and I know it; but I still bought a PPS FE for $629 and am happy to have it. I'll be happy to secure a black model when one comes along in my neck of the woods at a decent price as well -- my FFL guy thinks that $535-$550 should do it.)
Mr. Pomeroy/ Guns will always will increase in value.
If I wanted a FE PPS I wouldn't mind having to pay $629.00 for it. I think the excellent aluminum case and the extra magazine would make that a fair deal.
I agree too that a retail selling price of $535-550.00 would be reasonable enough to get my business for a plain black PPS. In fact I have no problem paying a bit more if one came a'calling. I want my FFL dealer to be happy with the deal too. Profit drives any market, and I don't have a problem with that as I enjoy having my FFL dealer in business and if he doesn't make a reasonable profit on his sales he won't be in business very long.
I just cannot abide price gouging, as with the ad for the FE PPS for $800+. I don't even mind that seller asking for so much profit, I just personally wouldn't buy it, altho someone probably will sooner or later.
I respectfully disagree with you that all guns will increase in value. In this age of mass production there are simply too many guns floating around for a great percentage of them to ever garner any fantastic additional value simply because they are a few decades old.
And no I don't consider the FE PPS's "average", but even with them if I were looking for long term profit for my investment it would be in something other than pistols. Even First Editions.
And hopefully before I come off as being a complete ass in this discussion I say if YOU are happy with your investment, you are the only person who matters..
I'm looking forward to getting a black PPS of my own, probably after the first of the year. It will be a "shooter" as are all of my firearms, and later on when I'm room temperature and toes up Stephen can do with them as he likes.
Ah, a happy ending.. Always desired..
I'm going to tell my Son that when he inherits my little stash of firearms to come over here and give you a call! Just be sure and have a good used video game handy for trading material.
Best Wishes, and happy holidays to you also.