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We get a lot of requests for "What should I pay for this?" or "How much is this gun really worth" or "I saw this offered online the other day and wondered if it was a good price?" In truth, there's no Blue Book of Gun Values or other ready-reference resource that's available to us online that we know about. Consequently, the recommendation often becomes: Check the completed auctions to get an idea of what people actually were willing to pay for a particular firearm; you can make a determination in your own head as to what the gun might be worth from that.

So ... how do you get the information on completed auctions? First, sign on to the GunBroker and Auction Arms online sites (checking both is better than using one or the other exclusively). Next, narrow your search to the specific gun you are interested in: an Interarms-made PPK/S, for example, or a Walther P5. Then go to the drop-down menu and select Completed Auctions. This will show you every completed deal from the past few months and will indicate whether there were any bids entered into the system (just keep in mind that a bid does not equal an actual sale). Click away until you determine whether the gun in question sold and, if it did, the actual dollar amount of the winning bid.

UPDATE on the Gunbroker check:

http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/walther-general-discussions/35567-how-check-completed-auctions-gunbroker.html

If new guns are your thing, here are some other sources that you might want to use to check prices:

http://www.sportingarms.com/

http://www.jetguns.com/index.php

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php

Happy hunting
 

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I have a Walther PP Super and 10 boxes of 9x18 ultra ammo .It is 95% or better in box with all paper work.Can some one give me an approximate value on it
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I also have a 380 that looks like a walther ppk but it says Manurin on it .it is also in 90 to 95% condition ,Can anyone give me some info on this pistol?
thanks wesle 94
 

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Parts vs. Pistol

Unfortunately, dealers are breaking up WW II P-38 sets to sell as parts. This has probably been happening for a while as they pulled out the magazines and substituted a modern one. Or sold holsters separate. Now Riley is selling slide, frame and barrel assemblies separately on GB. Now THAT is sadder than cut modifications.
 

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Gunbroker prices are ridiculously high - especially the ones that place a high reserve on it.


I'd go to Armslist instead but I only do face-to-face sales or FFL to FFL transfers with buyers who have CCW's. I sold my MR9/P99 on the day after I listed it.


I know how to spot scams.
 

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How about, "What did you sell it for?"

I've been searching through the WTS ads on here, but members replace their ads with "It's sold" leaving readers to wonder how much the seller originally was asking for it.

I don't care about the final selling price

I want to get a ball park figure. It's like GunBroker ads with Reserves that never get met. I don't like GunBroker. I think it's BS to list a gun as $0.00 in the line ad, and go in and see a "Bids starts at" figure that is higher than what I can get retail.

AS I said below, the starting prices are too high. It's no eBay, that's for sure.

BTW, sending people to Gunbroker to buy a gun fron a non-member seems like a violation of your Rules of Engagement to me.

My $.02
 

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I know how to spot scams.
But it doesn't seem like you know how to work Gunbroker.

There are plenty of deals to be had on GB, and it's not a monolithic entity that sets every auction's price. Those are set by individual sellers, so if someone sets their invisible reserve too high, that's their problem, not Gunbroker's. There are lots of overpriced guns on Armslist, too, for exactly the same reason.

Also, the OP is not telling people to go buy on GB. It's saying to use GB to look at completed auctions to gauge market value.

I wouldn't have a fraction of the guns I have today if it weren't for Gunbroker, and I didn't overpay on any of them.
 

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totaly agree

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I totally agree with you , taking some time and watching you can get some real good deals , as for the over priced reserved auctions That is there problem , just a for instance i just picked up a brand new sig 250F 9mm in box $300 how can you go wrong. patience is a virtue wait what you want will come along sooner or later at a fare price . some if not most of the gun shops around here are over priced, but you can work with them , occasionally.
 

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Think, then buy

how much to pay is more determined by what purpose you intend to satisfy, if you want to shoot buy a shooter, and pay a third to a half of what a full blown safe queen would run. Shoot it and learn and you will make an informed, experienced decision when you get your second one, which, in the case of the French-German PPK/S (late 60's-early 80's), is all but a certainty. Uh, careful not to sour your taste for the PPK/S by buying beyond those limits. Over time you'll still have and shoot your first shooter while your butter and cream investment stuff remains oily in the safe.
 

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More tips - signup for P38 specific forums like:

legacy-collectibles.com/ww2-collectibles/hand-guns
mauser.org/walther-p-38/
milsurps.com/index.php
milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=5750
pistole38.nl
p38guns.com
pistole38.nl/P38book/P38-book.html
wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411199
latewar.com/html/
p-38.info
p38forum.com/index.htm
p38guns.com
lmd-militaria.com
waltherforums.com

Look at their pics, follow prices, target specific years that suit your needs and pocketbook. Make friends, learn (see the buy books first sticky).
Then buy from them if possible.
 

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Completed Auctions & Realized sales

YEAR MO $AVG COUNT
2013 07 $599 1
2013 08 $650 2
2013 10 $410 1
2013 12 $600 1
2014 01 $550 1
2014 02 $534 5
2014 03 $566 2
2014 04 $610 2
2015 04 $425 1
2015 08 $565 1
2015 09 $480 1
2015 10 $485 7
2015 11 $488 9
2015 12 $418 5
2016 08 $525 1
2016 09 $430 1
2016 10 $482 4
2016 11 $300 1
2016 12 $577 1
2017 01 $503 2
2017 09 $650 1
2018 05 $486 4
2018 06 $496 9
2018 07 $431 1
2019 04 $541 2
2019 05 $530 1
2019 06 $400 1
All Avg $501 68

All Prices I have on file:

Walther P99 AS Pistol in 9x19.
Blue Book of Gun Values (39th Edition) indicates between $435 in 95% condition and $550 in 100% condition for this gun. I have 68 recorded prices for this model gun from $300 to $775 over a period of 5 Yrs 11 Mos ending June 30, 2019. The average price as of that date was $501. No refurbs, no refinishes, regular sights. Adjusted to two magazines. All represented as 95% or better. No distinction for import location or engineering revision, if any, no special editions, no distinctions for box, papers, tools. Current or last MSRP is $629. The last 10 prices I have for this model since 6/15/2018 range from $357 to $693 averaging $484.
 
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