If you're talking about gas operated pistols the two most well known are the HK P7 and the Desert Eagle. Unfortunately I've never shot either one.
What other Manufacturers Have Used a Soft Recoil System?
I know that H&K has used that system at least once but I am told that other manufacturers have fooled with the idea as well. If anyone knows of any of the others I'd love to hear aobut it.
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I was told that Sig Sauer had used that system as well but I don't know off any Sig pistols with a gas blowback system.If you're talking about gas operated pistols the two most well known are the HK P7 and the Desert Eagle. Unfortunately I've never shot either one.
There was a South African pistol called the Vektor. There was also the Wilson Combat ADP. Both of these pistols I believe used a gas delayed blowback system similar to the P7.
The DEagle is not gas delayed blowback, it is a gas-operated long-stroke piston. There's a port near the muzzle that sends pressure a piston under the barrel that pushes the slide back. As the slide moves rearward, the bolt twists to unlock before following the slide rearward. If you're familiar with an AR-15, imagine the bolt carrier is the slide.If you're talking about gas operated pistols the two most well known are the HK P7 and the Desert Eagle. Unfortunately I've never shot either one.
HK P7
Wilson combat ADP
Vector CP1
Arsenal PM02
Styer GB (same principle but the piston is circumferential to the barrel and has a double-feed mag (like an AR))
"There's a port near the muzzle"
The Desert Eagle has the gas system port just ahead of the chamber, this decreases "dwell time", and increases energy transfer to the slide, when compared to a gas system port near the muzzle.
Nothing "soft recoil" about the 50AE (and I like that).....
The Desert Eagle has the gas system port just ahead of the chamber, this decreases "dwell time", and increases energy transfer to the slide, when compared to a gas system port near the muzzle.
Nothing "soft recoil" about the 50AE (and I like that).....
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I've fired a 50 AE DE, and was surprised at how manageable it was."There's a port near the muzzle"
The Desert Eagle has the gas system port just ahead of the chamber, this decreases "dwell time", and increases energy transfer to the slide, when compared to a gas system port near the muzzle.
Nothing "soft recoil" about the 50AE (and I like that).....
Big gun, big bang, and a big flame - but it felt good!
You were told right. Most of the others were fooled.I know that H&K has used that system at least once but I am told that other manufacturers have fooled with the idea ...
The H&K P7 was the only one that was a commercial success.
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Yes the HK P7 system is great. I have 3 of them and carry one daily. Decided to try out this CCP. So far looking like a mistake. Took it apart and it hung up on reassembly. Slide is jammed about an inch back. Looks like the hook on the frame is in the striker spring.
Welcome to the forum.Took it apart and it hung up on reassembly. Slide is jammed about an inch back.
Is your CCP an M1 or the newer M2 version ? Have you contacted Walther USA about it ?
I hate to hear that. I looked at my CCP M2 tonight and I can't even so how that is possible. On the Walther there realy is no slide mechanism and the slide basically rides on the fixed barrell. The only place that is even remotely tricky to put together is of course getting the piston in it's chambber but after that it's seeing that the sllide is seated into the slot on the front of the pistol. If it is not sitting in there correcty you won't get very far. But, other than that I am at a loss to explain how that could happen.Yes the HK P7 system is great. I have 3 of them and carry one daily. Decided to try out this CCP. So far looking like a mistake. Took it apart and it hung up on reassembly. Slide is jammed about an inch back. Looks like the hook on the frame is in the striker spring.
Call Walther customer support. They are very nice and very helpful. Maybe they can figure it out over the phone.
Other than that I hate to hear that you are having problems. The pistol is a great pistol and the CCP M2's have a great track record so far. The original CCP commonly had issues in use but I have never heard of this problem.
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