As mentioned in other threads, I bought a 1978 Ulm PPK in 9mm kurz NIB a few weeks ago, and had the chance to take it to the range yesterday. I found the recoil quite snappy, and the mag springs were quite strong (Good!). I shot one box of Monarch ammo. Lets just say I didn't do as well as the test target; (7 shots on the space of a half dollar at 15 m.) but had a lot of fun. I collect all type of auto pistols, and noticed on your forums that most people seem to prefer the 7.65 version, (I guess because of recoil, 007, and Herr Hitler) But the 9mm kurz has been around since 1933 (As I learned on this forum) so they thought it was a good idea from the beginning-Right? Honestly I would have a mint version of either, but since this is the PPK I ran across, I'll never know anything else as far as recoil. Cleaned thoroughly and put in the safe, I think I'll probably shoot another box through it in the next few months.