I have PPQ22 and an SR22 but have never taken them to the range together. Interesting. I'll have to try that. Have not shot either a lot.
Regis
Regis
Walther P22 vs. Ruger SR22
I own both the Walther and the Ruger. I haven't shot the Ruger as much, but took it along to the range last weekend. I alternated between the two pistols at 7 yards using the same CCI Mini Mag 36gr ammo.
I found that the Ruger would shoot a slightly tighter group. Should have taken pics, but didn't. Not by much, but there was a difference.
Both guns were 100% reliable.
The Walther feels better in my hand. Maybe because I've shot P22's for years and for 1000's of rounds. The Ruger was wearing the larger factory grip.
Pro's for the Walther:
Feels great in hand. If you are familiar with TDA pistols and slide mounted safety levers, the Walther's safety will not be a problem. Love the paddle magazine release! Grip texture is very good.
Con's for the Walther:
Don't expect targer pistol accuracy. It's a plinker.
Pro's for the Ruger:
Slightly more accurate. Sights are stoutly built: dove tail front sight and the rear sight is adjustable for windage and elevation. The slide is machined from aluminum - not zamak. Slide finish is nicely done. Single action trigger has a crisp break.
Con's for the Ruger:
While slightly more accurate than the P22, its still a plinker. Thumb safety operation is different from any gun I've ever owned. Kind of funky, but can be learned.
This comparison is "old news" as both of these pistols have been around for years. I still prefer the Walther even though the Ruger has some real strengths.
If you've owned or shot both, what's your opinion?
I found that the Ruger would shoot a slightly tighter group. Should have taken pics, but didn't. Not by much, but there was a difference.
Both guns were 100% reliable.
The Walther feels better in my hand. Maybe because I've shot P22's for years and for 1000's of rounds. The Ruger was wearing the larger factory grip.
Pro's for the Walther:
Feels great in hand. If you are familiar with TDA pistols and slide mounted safety levers, the Walther's safety will not be a problem. Love the paddle magazine release! Grip texture is very good.
Con's for the Walther:
Don't expect targer pistol accuracy. It's a plinker.
Pro's for the Ruger:
Slightly more accurate. Sights are stoutly built: dove tail front sight and the rear sight is adjustable for windage and elevation. The slide is machined from aluminum - not zamak. Slide finish is nicely done. Single action trigger has a crisp break.
Con's for the Ruger:
While slightly more accurate than the P22, its still a plinker. Thumb safety operation is different from any gun I've ever owned. Kind of funky, but can be learned.
This comparison is "old news" as both of these pistols have been around for years. I still prefer the Walther even though the Ruger has some real strengths.
If you've owned or shot both, what's your opinion?
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I have a P22Q and my wife has a Ruger SR22. We take them both to the range quite often.
Overall I prefer the Ruger, particularly as they came out of the box. The Ruger just worked and continues to work reliably. I did polish the feed ramp in the Ruger, but I really didn't have to do that.
The Walther ... terrible out of the box. If you have read the forums you will see a list of modifications that people do trying to make it work right. I've done several of the changes and have gradually make the Walther begin to work reliably. But to get there I had to learn how to do some amateur gunsmithing. I've filed metal off the hammer and a lot off the extractor channel and a bit off the feed ramp. I've polished all these parts, swapped in a stronger extractor spring, tried DRI-LUBE as well as Hoppe's oil for lube. Tried lots of lube and only a little lube. Took forever to get manual extraction to work well (did not work AT ALL out of the box.)
Tried Mag-Lube and DRI-LUBE in magazines (seemed to help). Tried Hoppe's oil in Magazines (not so good.) Tried Hoppe's Moly in the barrel (not worth the effort). Tried Moly on bullets (a disaster) and touched a few of the heavier wear points with Moly (probably not worth the effort).
After all this work I now have the Walther working at a similar level to the SR22. But remember, the SR22 was fine out of the box.
Probably 2500 rounds fired through both. A lot of that was testing to figure out what ammunition works best. (Mini-Mags both 36gr HP and 40 gr solid work best in both. Aquila 40 gr Super Extra works fine. Federal Champion is a decent low cost bulk round that works pretty well.)
Finally happy with both.
Overall I prefer the Ruger, particularly as they came out of the box. The Ruger just worked and continues to work reliably. I did polish the feed ramp in the Ruger, but I really didn't have to do that.
The Walther ... terrible out of the box. If you have read the forums you will see a list of modifications that people do trying to make it work right. I've done several of the changes and have gradually make the Walther begin to work reliably. But to get there I had to learn how to do some amateur gunsmithing. I've filed metal off the hammer and a lot off the extractor channel and a bit off the feed ramp. I've polished all these parts, swapped in a stronger extractor spring, tried DRI-LUBE as well as Hoppe's oil for lube. Tried lots of lube and only a little lube. Took forever to get manual extraction to work well (did not work AT ALL out of the box.)
Tried Mag-Lube and DRI-LUBE in magazines (seemed to help). Tried Hoppe's oil in Magazines (not so good.) Tried Hoppe's Moly in the barrel (not worth the effort). Tried Moly on bullets (a disaster) and touched a few of the heavier wear points with Moly (probably not worth the effort).
After all this work I now have the Walther working at a similar level to the SR22. But remember, the SR22 was fine out of the box.
Probably 2500 rounds fired through both. A lot of that was testing to figure out what ammunition works best. (Mini-Mags both 36gr HP and 40 gr solid work best in both. Aquila 40 gr Super Extra works fine. Federal Champion is a decent low cost bulk round that works pretty well.)
Finally happy with both.
I don't understand the problems you guys are having. I have two P22QD's and not one thing that requires me modify anything. Cleaned both from the factory oil and we shoot them, period.
I don’t have the QD, but do have a Q. Mine has been flawless out of the box. I did manually rack the slide a few thousand times before ever firing it to speed up breakin, so perhaps that made it NOT “out of the box”. My only issue is the rear sight is a bit loose. I found that on my P22 and my PPK/S in .22, both have places on the frame that rub with places on the slide. Fairly obvious after a few rounds, so have to wonder why they come that way.I don't understand the problems you guys are having. I have two P22QD's and not one thing that requires me modify anything. Cleaned both from the factory oil and we shoot them, period.
I shot my QD right out of the box except for making sure the chamber/barrel didn't have any rocks left in there. It functioned 100%.....but of course I couldn't leave it alone and did a few things just to make it like I like it. 2.25 lb trigger, smoooooooooooth trigger bar ears, self loading mags.....er, uh....well, no I haven't been able to figure that one out. Do have VQ on the line again regarding the changes to the chamber and extractor cut. Perhaps I can get them to make a proper extractor yet.
Neither the Ruger or the P22 are the best pistols ever but for a new $225 Walther P22...with a lifetime warranty...what do you expect? They are about 99.9% these days and if you don't like cast zinc....then get the aluminum....which is just as soft. Yepper, weird safety on the SR22 but again...more fun than a barrel of monkeys. 1917
Neither the Ruger or the P22 are the best pistols ever but for a new $225 Walther P22...with a lifetime warranty...what do you expect? They are about 99.9% these days and if you don't like cast zinc....then get the aluminum....which is just as soft. Yepper, weird safety on the SR22 but again...more fun than a barrel of monkeys. 1917
i'm sorry for writing to the old post but... i'm having the exact same question... walther P22 vs Ruger SR22 and i'm wondering if there's anyone who can update on this topic. What do you think would be more worth it? after years - which one is better?
thanks in advance as i'm a healthy recipes chef and just starting on the guns journey. any help appreciated.
thanks in advance as i'm a healthy recipes chef and just starting on the guns journey. any help appreciated.
Can't speak to the Walther, but I have an SR22 Ruger with over 8000 rounds through it. It is extremely accurate and reliable. I highly recommend the Ruger.
Do you specifically want a small-sized pistol?i'm sorry for writing to the old post but... i'm having the exact same question... walther P22 vs Ruger SR22 and i'm wondering if there's anyone who can update on this topic. What do you think would be more worth it? after years - which one is better?
If not, consider the PPQ 22 instead of the P22. Full-size and generally less problematic than the P22.
I have both. Your choice depends on what fits you and works best for you. For me, it's the Ruger.
Jeff
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