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Hi everyone. I have problem with my walther I just installed 5" barrel on my pistol and after 5 shoots my slider just crack in the middle. Since then I cannot get new slider enywhere in Europe was writing to walther Germany but they didn't respond only one dealer from UK respond on my email but Hi wants to charge me around £300 for slider recoil spring and delivery to Ireland. Walther usa can supply parts but not exporting outside USA. So maybe anyone have some idea from where can I get it.
 

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Member Crete can tell you all about it. He has been without a slide for over two years now and he has a foot in the door at Umarex. Still, it is a no go. I'm not sure what the problem is. That is an original P99 style slide, a number have cracked. Which is why I run a #83 O ring over the guide rod to act as a buffer. It might be cheaper to purchase a parts gun...the slide doesn't have a serial number on it over here but shipping out of country is the tricky part as far as I know. Not sure what Europe does or the rules for sales there.

This a known problem and if Walther won't take care of it I would avoid all cast zinc Umarex/Walther firearms. 1917
 

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Member Crete can tell you all about it. He has been without a slide for over two years now and he has a foot in the door at Umarex. Still, it is a no go. I'm not sure what the problem is. That is an original P99 style slide, a number have cracked. Which is why I run a #83 O ring over the guide rod to act as a buffer. It might be cheaper to purchase a parts gun...the
slide doesn't have a serial number on it over here but shipping out of country is the tricky part as far as I know. Not sure what Europe does or the rules for sales there.

This a known problem and if Walther won't take care of it I would avoid all cast zinc Umarex/Walther firearms. 1917



Hi yea in Europe is hard to get important parts for guns walther EU customer service doesn't exists they didn't repaid on my emails and moust dealers are redirecting my post to walther head office but on them website there is information that they are not selling parts to private customers. Only walther USA has good customer support they replaying on every email very fast they advice me that recoil spring has be changed every 3-4000 rounds to avoid slider issue
 

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Well, that is baloney, you don't have to change the recoil spring. The problem is a badly engineered slide design with weak points and square corners. Square corners concentrate stresses. The muzzle cup has been strengthened which was a crack point and there is a sizable pin inserted into the slide at the hold open catch notch....another weak point and where yours broke. The pistols is long overdue for an aluminum slide. Lighter and would not be a ammo sensitive. I have recoil spring with over 50K rounds on them in P22s and that hasn't contributed to anything negative. The old slides are simply too weak. Engineering and material problems.

I hate excuses. How many other firearms have a history of slides cracking and flying off the pistol? I do believe the #83 rubber O ring that I install over the guide rod and recoil spring softens the impact of the slide against the polymer slide stop...Polymer is better than steel and rubber is better than that. But what is done is done.

Yes. I can get a slide, barrel, mainspring, grip, etc. in three days here. If I were in a Country where parts weren't available.....I'd be purchase something else. 1917
 

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Oh yeah, I don't depend on e-mail. I call, that seems to work much better until you establish a relationship with someone in the service department. That was Jeff Whitehouse at Smith and Wesson a few years ago but he has since retired. Always took care of me and in a friendly manner. I haven't run into anyone rude at Ft. Smith, usually the contracts are great and very helpful. 1917
 

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Well, that is baloney, you don't have to change the recoil spring. The problem is a badly engineered slide design with weak points and square corners. Square corners concentrate stresses. The muzzle cup has been strengthened which was a crack point and there is a sizable pin inserted into the slide at the hold open catch notch....another weak point and where yours broke. The pistols is long overdue for an aluminum slide. Lighter and would not be a ammo sensitive. I have recoil spring with over 50K rounds on them in P22s and that hasn't contributed to anything negative. The old slides are simply too weak. Engineering and material problems.

I hate excuses. How many other firearms have a history of slides cracking and flying off the pistol? I do believe the #83 rubber O ring that I install over the guide rod and recoil spring softens the impact of the slide against the polymer slide stop...Polymer is better than steel and rubber is better than that. But what is done is done.

Yes. I can get a slide, barrel, mainspring, grip, etc. in three days here. If I were in a Country where parts weren't available.....I'd be purchase something else. 1917

Hi Good idea with this #83 rubber O ring i think will do the same can you send me some link with size of it. Thanks
 

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I'll track down the size again. The ones I get at a home improvement store in the plumbing dept are Danko #83 with an inside diameter of 5/16". I forget the outside diameter. If we send you some we should send a whole box. You get 10 for $2.00. 1917

 

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I'll track down the size again. The ones I get at a home improvement store in the plumbing dept are Danko #83 with an inside diameter of 5/16". I forget the outside diameter. If we send you some we should send a whole box. You get 10 for $2.00. 1917


Yes I found it thanks
 

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Yep, that is it. Just place it over the middle of the recoil spring assembly...old or new captive. The outside diameter of the spring is about 1/4" and these simply float up and down the outside of the spring. The only problem you can get into, but it won't hurt anything, is if you place the O ring at the rear of the recoil spring assembly you won't be able to press the take down lever up. Just move the O ring forward at bit and snap the lever shut. Works just as well on a Ruger SR 22......rubber buffer. I can feel the softer impact of the slide against the rubber vs the hard polymer. 1917



Here is one on an old, old, old P22. Original slide. I lube mine with dry moly. A light gun oil would be fine also.
 

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Have the cracked slide made again in ALU or steel

Apparently, if one looks around and asks, a cracked P22 slide can be rebuilt in any metal configuration available (from ZAMAK as the original, to ALU or even steel).

I just got an offer to have my cracked slide rebuilt (copied) in steel, next month (March 2019). Wish me luck. :)

I've been searching a way to replace my P22 cracked slide but is nigh impossible as Walther in Germany doesn't give a hoot about after-sales service. The Walther reps in two countries I phoned couldn't care less.

Just ask around for a mechanic who may be willing to do it as a pet project. I will not pay for mine but for the material used to make it. Steel or ALU will work well in the P22 especially with the addition of the mentioned above O-Ring over the recoil spring.

Good luck.

I will let you know how the project went later in the year. :cool:
 

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Apparently, if one looks around and asks, a cracked P22 slide can be rebuilt in any metal configuration available (from ZAMAK as the original, to ALU or even steel).

I just got an offer to have my cracked slide rebuilt (copied) in steel, next month (March 2019). Wish me luck. <img src="http://www.waltherforums.com/foru
m/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />

I've been searching a way to replace my P22 cracked slide but is nigh impossible as Walther in Germany doesn't give a hoot about after-sales service. Their representative in two countries I phoned could care less.

Just ask around for a mechanic who may be willing to do it as a pet project. I will not pay for mine but for the material used to make it. Steel or ALU will work well in the P22 especially with the addition of the mentioned above O-Ring over the recoil spring.

Good luck.

I will let you know how the project went later in the year. <img src="http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg" />



I'm looking forward to hear progress good luck
 

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Apparently, if one looks around and asks, a cracked P22 slide can be rebuilt in any metal configuration available (from ZAMAK as the original, to ALU or even steel).

I just got an offer to have my cracked slide rebuilt (copied) in steel, next month (March 2019). Wish me luck. :)
Whatever happened to 3D scanning for a milling machine. I thought there were set ups for scanning just about any part and the machine could mill to those dimensions. 1917
 

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The 3D printers do not handle AISI and SAE designated 4140 steel.

4140 is a type of chrome-molybdenium steel having a composition of approximately .38-.43% of carbon (ref. 40 points), .75-1.00% manganese , .20-.35% silicon, .12% nickel, .80-1.00% chromium, and .15-.25% molybdenium.

4140 steel is the metal of choice in the manufacture of firearms because of its hardening qualities & resistance to shock.

A P22 slide made out of 4140 steel would be ideal. :)
 

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If you are really going to make a steel slide....how about some photos showing the process as you go step by step. What will be the weight of the slide? Too heavy and it won't cycle. Too light and the frame will suffer. To me the frame is pretty light weight and is still cast zinc. I don't think it can take much additional impact. You and I have both broken frames and at exactly the same spot. You will have to make sure the grooves are polished and will not eat up the frame rails. Only 1/8" of metal to metal contact exists between the slide grooves and frame rails when the slide is retracted....and the hammer is pressing up with 100% lift.

Why steel, why not aluminum? 1917
 
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