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How do they compare to the older German and French pistols? Big article in this months American Rifleman got me interested.
 

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this will be a hornet's nest ...
-- I think the German/French made PP series pistols are the most refined and beautiful of all Walther PP variants.
-- I think the Interarms/Ranger PPK was the "sweet spot" in the production of the PP series. It retained much of the original classic PPK look, but was also available in stainless steel.
-- While tained by a safety recall, the S&W variant (with it's continuous feed ramp) made the PPK pistol a more viable defensive pistol given it can reliably cycle HP/JHP in addition to FMJ. When fixed (or if post recall), I think the stainless steel S&W PPK provides the most "bang for buck" of any variant.
-- The PPK/S can be pointed as readily as the PPK, but with a PP length grip it is easier to control than the PPK while also providing as extra round.
 

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In my own experience, a mixed bag. My two US .32s are flawless. My .380 PPK required multiple trips to a gunsmith to sort out. I got rid of the .380 PPK/S at the same time in a move to avoid the chance of it malfunctioning as well.


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**ISO P.38 ac42 mag 4848b, PPK mag 285129K/2, Erfurt Luger mag 0253Q**
 

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I trust my S&W .380 PPK. Clean and lubed it runs well. Compared to my ‘68 .32 PP, it falls short in most areas. Fit and finish hands down goes to the German made model. The only issue I’ve seen on a German PP or PPK was hammer follow, or failure of the hammer to cock after the first shot, which may have been ammo related.
 

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The Ranger/Interarms pistols are well made and generally worth owning. I cannot speak to the S&W pistols, but there is plenty of discussion available about the recall and mods introduced to the original design. Personally, I find the S&W extended beavertail unattractive, but others think it cured a problem in the original design (which I have not experienced in shooting any PP-series pistols). As for the Fort Smith pistols, that is still in the early discussion stage. They do not interest me, at all, and instead I would spend my money on a vintage Walther or Manurhin pistol. My $0.02
 

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I think the Interarms models are a good middle ground with costs and functionality. The one selling point that I enjoy on my Interarms models is that the trigger pulls are more pleasant than the German models. I don't know if re-engineering was done or cheaper parts, but the trigger pulls are noticeably lighter and smoother.
 
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I have a pre war .32 PPK. It is magnificent in every way.

The Manchurins are very nice

I have a .380 PPK from Interarms. I went through a few of them before I found one that just shoots flawlessly. But this one does.

I’m not fond of the Smith because it departs a bit from the original design, looks wise, a bit. And I haven’t heard the best things and seen some stovepipe a lot.

The PPK is a great piece that probably would be on the trash heap of history if it weren’t for James Bond. But it is uncannily accurate and a blast to shoot and yes, I carry it from time to time.




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without Bond, on the "trash heap of history" ... this is a common assertion. for many years after WWII, the PPK remained one of the most innovative and effective "pocket pistols" available, so I would agree more with "might have" than "probably."
 

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I couldn't get 100 straight rounds thru' a Ranger PPK/s, nor could a buddy, back when they were still in production in Alabama.
My current sample has run 100% on ball, tho' it's never been pushed for reliability, and I was trying to run hollow points 30 years ago.
Geo' does a nice summation, IMHO.
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So what would a Interarms PP, mid 60's in 95% condition be worth?
Priceless, since Interarms never made any PPs :p If you mean an Interarms-imported PP, it would depend on origin (e.g., police surplus), caliber, and whether it was built by Walther or Manurhin.
 
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OK I found one right here. It's a Walther PP that was a Denmark police pistol recently retired ....late SN 433xxx. I post some pictures when it gets here. Thanks for the education.
 

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My experience with a .380 S&W PPK was not great. It jammed a lot with both fmj and hollow points. I am hoping the new ones made by Walther run better.
 

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Today in a LGS, I had the choice of making up the $250 difference in a trade for a brand new Fort Smith PPK in .380 ACP or getting an .380 ACP IA/Ranger PPK with $20 back. The Ranger came home. It was a dirty dog, but some ballistol and elbow grease have it looking pretty good now.

Question: IA markings are not my strong point so here's a question. What is the significant of the number inside the top of the slide? The number inside the slide is a "7" and the serial number on the frame ends in "7."
 

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like putting diesel fuel in a gasoline engine
Hollow points in older Walthers? Perhaps. Mike posted earlier here that the guns were designed within very specific parameters; anything exceeding that is apt to have a problem.
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Got my, new to me, 1996 Ranger/IA PPK (380 & Stainless) to the range today for a test fire. i used two mags: One was a, never used before, nickle flat bottom and the other was a Mecgar. Pistol did not like the mecgar, giving me a stoppage on the second round 3 times in a row. Pistol operated fawlessly with the nickle mag and devoured FMJ (Lawman and PMC) as well as the easy to digest Horandy XTP. Rear sight is a "mirco" off center to the right but pistol shot point of aim and grouped nicely with all three brands of ammo. External nicks & nice internals/bore suggest this pistol was an infrequently shot carry piece. This will be a keeper and one for carry. I like that it shows some wear.
 

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Rear sight is a "mirco" off center to the right but pistol shot point of aim and grouped nicely with all three brands of ammo. External nicks & nice internals/bore suggest was an infrequently shot carry piece. it shows some wear.
Nah...this one isn't for you...you'd best send it on to me. Especially with all that wear, I know you'd be ashamed to carry it.
 
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