Tungsten Guide Rod

Here ya go:

BT Guide Rods http://btguiderod.com, Sprinco Sprinco USA, Recoil Reducers, DPM Systems
http://dpmsystems.com

mikel said:

Going to get the tungsten guide rod for my ppq m2...can't seem to find anywhere except Walther at a pretty price...any suggestions?

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I believe they are considered a Walther part. It's available only through Walther as far as I know.

As of last week, they were out of stock at Walther. I tried to order one and was told "check back in about six weeks".

I already own and use two of them and wanted a third. I guess that will wait. So far my experience with them has been very positive.

mikel said:

Going to get the tungsten guide rod for my ppq m2...can't seem to find anywhere except Walther at a pretty price...any suggestions?

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I have it and I still don't see what is the big deal about it.

If you don't have it yet $125-$140 (price of the Rod) can get you top quality night sights.
Or close to 800 rds of Federal 9MM at Walmart today.

Simong.

Jimmo952 said:

I believe they are considered a Walther part. It's available only through Walther as far as I know.

As of last week, they were out of stock at Walther. I tried to order one and was told "check back in about six weeks".

I already own and use two of them and wanted a third. I guess that will wait. So far my experience with them has been very positive.

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That stinks...no discounts then I guess

Simong said:

I have it and I still don't see what is the big deal about it.

If you don't have it yet $125-$140 (price of the Rod) can get you top quality night sights.
Or close to 800 rds of Federal 9MM at Walmart today.

Simong.

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Luckily, money not the issue. I would just like to reduce recoil a bit (muzzle flip), willing to plunk it down to try...can't hurt I guess...would just like to get it for a bit of a discount

Caine said:

Here ya go:

BT Guide Rods http://btguiderod.com, Sprinco Sprinco USA, Recoil Reducers, DPM Systems
http://dpmsystems.com

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Thanks...I'm sure these are quality...and how difficult is it to actually manufacture. But still think I want an OEM one.

Your choice, I’m just providing you with options.

mikel said:

That stinks...no discounts then I guess

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The Walther customer support person I spoke with told me the tungsten rods turned out to be more popular than they anticipated. Seems there is more of a market for them than thought.

He would not tell me if Walther actually produces the part or outsources production and puts their name on it. Perhaps he didn't know.


Just passing along what I was told...

mikel said:

Luckily, money not the issue. I would just like to reduce recoil a bit (muzzle flip), willing to plunk it down to try...can't hurt I guess...would just like to get it for a bit of a discount

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If you really want to reduce the recoil of your gun and control the gun work on strengthening your grip, as far as I know there is no real shortcuts.

This guys you see on YouTube or serious people that compete in gun matches,
give them a hand shake you would feel your hand came out the crusher...

I posted about this same subject before, in my case the whole tungsten rod it had to do more inside my head than it really improved anything.

But hey if it makes you happy go and buy it, life is short enjoy while you can.

Simong.

I plan on eventually, maybe a year or two from now, buying a recoil reduction system. Not so much as to reduce the recoil, but to get away from a plastic guide rod. The extra stuff might get in the way, but shouldn't break anything. Worst case, I just sell it on Ebay and buy a stainless captive setup.

If you call Walther to order the tungsten guide rod, the price is less than ordering over the website. I think it was $12 or $15 less.

Their website says it is a 50N spring, which is a (approx) 11lbs spring. It seems low. With a 13lbs spring and a one=piece guide rod, I had had failures to return to battery until I changed a weaker striker spring. Something must be off...

Simong said:

If you really want to reduce the recoil of your gun and control the gun work on strengthening your grip, as far as I know there is no real shortcuts.

This guys you see on YouTube or serious people that compete in gun matches,
give them a hand shake you would feel your hand came out the crusher...

I posted about this same subject before, in my case the whole tungsten rod it had to do more inside my head than it really improved anything.

But hey if it makes you happy go and buy it, life is short enjoy while you can.

Simong.

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I'm 5'6" 180 lbs, lean, can bench 300lbs at the blink of an eye...(smallish hands though...maybe has something to do with it)...but she still muzzle flips for re acquisition. I KNOW I can get MUCH better...but this is a short cut, and this firearm is for PD so if I need that little extra, hopefully it will be there...not just for hitting a piece of paper!

Jimmo952 said:

The Walther customer support person I spoke with told me the tungsten rods turned out to be more popular than they anticipated. Seems there is more of a market for them than thought.

He would not tell me if Walther actually produces the part or outsources production and puts their name on it. Perhaps he didn't know.


Just passing along what I was told...

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Great questions...doesn't seem so hard to make...but will go with theirs in lieu of hoping it is the best in case of reliability!

You can add little more wight upfront with a small gun lite like the Streamlite TLR-7 or 8 in addition to the Tungsten Guide-rod.

Simong.

Simong said:

You can add little more wight upfront with a small gun lite like the Streamlite TLR-7 or 8 in addition to the Tungsten Guide-rod.

Simong.

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As useless as a weapon light is to me as the pistol is only for use at the range, a light to add weight seems to be money better spent than a tungsten rod.

At least it's cool and you get to show it off.

For muzzle control, would be interesting to see match weights made for the PPQ like those available for the H&K USP. An aluminium weight/compensator with room for tungsten weights to be added/removed the weight could be customised to personal preference.

(Just don't tell the Boy Scouts the Pinewood Derby weights you're buying are for a pistol )

Walther Should Produce Steel Guns

I have been shooting my wife's CZ 75-SP01, and I must say that the steel platform virtually eliminates muzzle flip and discharge recoil. Yes, the PPQ is much lighter to carry; but were I living in a right to carry state, I would still pack a steel -- instead of polymer -- frame handgun. I have also a P 38 (manufactured circa April 1943 by Mauser) which is, without exaggeration, GREAT! It is lighter (at least for me in my hands) than the CZ; perfectly balanced; reasonably accurate; and easy to shoot. I wish so very much that Walther would re-manufacture the P 38 in, at least, 9mm with steel frame. Steel platform firearms are so much easier to shoot one handed as well.

Slartybartfast said:

For muzzle control, would be interesting to see match weights made for the PPQ like those available for the H&K USP. An aluminium weight/compensator with room for tungsten weights to be added/removed the weight could be customised to personal preference.

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I added a rail accessory to my PPQ 45 that would allow me to pack lead weights inside in an attempt to reduce the muzzle flip. The weight without the lead slugs was 2oz and the loaded weight ended up at 8oz. The muzzle flip was unaffected.

Use a coat hanger (wire, not plastic) and hang a 5 lb. dumbell off the rail.