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Has anyone been using the MagGuts long term in their PPS mags? I wouldn’t mind an extra round in the 6 and 7 round mags but I’m not willing to sacrifice reliability for it.


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I've never had one so I can't comment on reliability. To me, it's really a value question. The last time I checked, the upgrade was around $23 just to add ONE round to your existing magazine. Buy an 8 rounder. They're not that expensive, and you've got a little more in the grip department.


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I've never had one so I can't comment on reliability. To me, it's really a value question. The last time I checked, the upgrade was around $23 just to add ONE round to your existing magazine. Buy an 8 rounder. They're not that expensive, and you've got a little more in the grip department.


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I guess I came at it from the other direction...for $25, eh, why not? 🙂

Will just one extra round make a difference, ever? Probably not.

Unless your mitts are huge the 8 round extended magazine has no more grip than the 7.

I'm toying with the idea of adding the Magguts +1 to my 8 round extended magazine!

Because...eh, why not?
 

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I don't see the need for it with 6, 7, and 8 round mags available. All that trouble for one round. Oh well.
 

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I don't see the need for it with 6, 7, and 8 round mags available. All that trouble for one round. Oh well.

Build it & they will come.........., but to me, lot of money for 1 rd. Yes, in some cases, rare, 1 rd. could save your hide. Personally, I'd rather invest in another 8 rd. mag.
 

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Build it & they will come.........., but to me, lot of money for 1 rd. Yes, in some cases, rare, 1 rd. could save your hide. Personally, I'd rather invest in another 8 rd. mag.
That’s what I ended up doing. I purchased an 8 round mag from eBay.


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That’s what I ended up doing. I purchased an 8 round mag from eBay.

And there ya go, problem solved.


Wasn't dumping on you, wturri78. It's your money, and if it works for you, great<img src="http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />.


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LOL!

I just ordered an extension for my 8 round magazine today! Because I dang well can! 😄
 

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I do not have them for my PPS as they no longer make them for the classic. I do have them for my LCP and believe that they are worth the price YMMV. No issues with mine.
 

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Has anyone been using the MagGuts long term in their PPS mags? I wouldn’t mind an extra round in the 6 and 7 round mags but I’m not willing to sacrifice reliability for it.


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And that is why I don’t do it. Reliability. The PPS M2 is fine as is to me.


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I just received and installed their +1 for my 8 round magazine. Cuz why not?

I'll put 100 rounds through it this week. Their spring for the 6 round flush magazine has not malfunctioned once in well over 500 rounds for me.

I'll post the results. I have no worries about carrying the Magguts for the 6 round magazine because it's never failed me yet.
 

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Magguts for the win!

Ran 150 rounds through the 8 round magazine today, with the +1 Magguts installed and one in the chamber each time. Bottom line, it ran flawlessly every time on a completely loaded PPS. Slide locked on empty every time.

I call that a win. $25 for an extra round? Beats $600 on a P365 for two extra rounds! 🙂
 

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6+1 in my 9mm PPS classic (using the 6 round flush mag) to keep the print level as low as possible on my small frame … and a spare 6-round mag on my body is just fine. No Magguts to be seen.

Interestingly, I looked at Magguts with interest when they first released products for the PPS Classic, but tossed out the idea based not only on potential reliability concerns, but the concept that if I need 7 rounds (much less 13) for self-defense, my situational awareness has let me down so badly to begin with that I'm probably toast, anyway.
 
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6+1 in my 9mm PPS classic (using the 6 round flush mag) to keep the print level as low as possible on my small frame … and a spare 6-round mag on my body is just fine. No Magguts to be seen.

Interestingly, I looked at Magguts with interest when they first released products for the PPS Classic, but tossed out the idea based not only on potential reliability concerns, but the concept that if I need 7 rounds (much less 13) for self-defense, my situational awareness has let me down so badly to begin with that I'm probably toast, anyway.

That is why I do not feel undergunned with my PPS M2. I also at times carry just a small revolver. If I can't get it done with five or six, I am probably dead anyhow.
 

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As the post was about whether Magguts can be considered reliable, and not whether someone feels more or less "gunned" with it or without it --

Based on two trial cases with my own gun, nearly 800 rounds between two Magguts equipped magazines without any failure of any kind, I say yes -- I trust it.

Will that one extra round ever save my life? Probably not, but it won't hurt anything.
 

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As the post was about whether Magguts can be considered reliable, and not whether someone feels more or less "gunned" with it or without it --

Based on two trial cases with my own gun, nearly 800 rounds between two Magguts equipped magazines without any failure of any kind, I say yes -- I trust it.

Will that one extra round ever save my life? Probably not, but it won't hurt anything.
Thank you for sharing your experience with the Magguts and reporting on the reliability of it. I was not directing my comment to you, so please don't think I was saying anything against the Magguts. Nobody ever survived a gunfight and complained that they had too much ammunition.

I was merely saying that when I carry my PPS M2 that I don't feel bad based on capacity. I always carry at least one spare magazine. So I do believe in more ammo is better than less. I just meant that depending on the time of year, or the particular environment, I may be dressed lightly and I can only conceal my PPS M2 (or even a small revolver) versus a full sized pistol. In those situations, I do not feel that I am carrying too little gun.

If it is Fall or Winter and I have a jacket, then I carry my PPQ OWB. When it is Summertime or if I am in shorts and a t-shirt, then I love carrying my PPS M2 (also with a small revolver for a BUG). I always carry a small revolver in addition to either the PPS M2, or the PPQ, depending on the weather and social function (how I am dressed). There have been times that I carry only a small revolver if I am making a quick trip to the gas station for example. That is all I meant, and I was not putting down anybody wanting extra ammo. Again, nobody ever said that they were upset because they had too much ammo on them.
 

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Magguts for the win!

I call that a win. $25 for an extra round? Beats $600 on a P365 for two extra rounds! 🙂

Well, I suppose. If you feel the need to "win."



You've answered the reliability question for DamnYankee, and if he wants to get the Magguts, that's great. I still think that $23 to $25 for an extra round to a factory mag is a questionable value, and I'll point that out to anyone who asks about it on this forum now or in the future. For a few dollars more, you'll get 6, 7, or 8 extra rounds by purchasing a spare magazine.


Comparing the purchase of a first tier, fully functioning handgun to the $25 for a non-functioning (You have to add it to a magazine for it to be useful) gadget and thinking you're getting a bargain is a REAL stretch. No skin off my nose; it's you're money, spend it how you want. My point to DamnYankee was to consider the value, and I think he did.


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Well, I suppose. If you feel the need to "win."



You've answered the reliability question for DamnYankee, and if he wants to get the Magguts, that's great. I still think that $23 to $25 for an extra round to a factory mag is a questionable value, and I'll point that out to anyone who asks about it on this forum now or in the future. For a few dollars more, you'll get 6, 7, or 8 extra rounds by purchasing a spare magazine.


Comparing the purchase of a first tier, fully functioning handgun to the $25 for a non-functioning (You have to add it to a magazine for it to be useful) gadget and thinking you're getting a bargain is a REAL stretch. No skin off my nose; it's you're money, spend it how you want. My point to DamnYankee was to consider the value, and I think he did.


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I get your POV. I'd say this: I can spend $25 on lunch any day of the week. Most people spend more than that on drive-through coffee in a week. Not saying those are good uses of funds either, but $25 is in the "meh, why not?" category.

I'd also point out -- and yeah, I'm talking about ONE round and no I really don't think it's ever going to make a difference -- but to your point about spending a bit more and getting another 8 round magazine --

Those extra 8 rounds don't do you any good until they're in your gun, and since we're talking about extreme edge cases anyway, ONE extra round IN the gun will be more useful than EIGHT rounds NEAR the gun under extreme duress, at least in my opinion. Plenty of videos and trainer experiences can attest to the fact that quickly reloading on slide lock doesn't happen as smoothly as people may like to think, even with great practice. I practice all the time and occasionally have still fumbled a reload when trying to pull that extra magazine out of my waistband, from under concealment, while moving to cover, while keeping my eyes on targets, and that's just under the stress of a timer.

For that reason, I'd take a 15 round magazine with no reloads any day of the week, over an 8 round magazine with a dozen reloads all over my belt.

But finally back to the Magguts question -- yes they seem to be reliable, and for $25 I say "why not?" That's really the best reason I have for even owning one. Sure, one extra round. In the minuscule chance I ever need my firearm in an emergency, compounded with the minuscule chance I fire 8 rounds and need another one, I guess I'm covered.

So to the OP, whether you spend $25 on a +1 spring for your PPS, or $25 on drive-through coffee, your life really won't change much :)

And neither the coffee nor the Magguts will cause your gun to malfunction.
 
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