[PPS1980]

Ok, I have a guy that says "Trigger bar deforms the barrel. That's the only negative thing I've found when I was considering buying one." on his PPS barrel and offered the following picture as evidence. Weirdest thing I've seen.

 

[imaoldfart]

Ha....your guy is too picky....and THAT's not deformed....but it IS F'd up. By the looks of the gouge, I'd say he's only put about 3 rounds thru the pistol. All I gotta say is, NO pistol should be designed in such a way that the parts simply don't fit. Then sell it like that and claim this type of (they call it wear) is normal. That's a crock of poop.

Link: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=PPS+M2+trigger+bar+barrel+site:Waltherforums.com&atb=v110-1_g&ia=web

 

[PPS1980]

Never had that problem with my PPS Classic. Don't follow the inferior M2 discussion much......

 

[Zebra]

So... what did Ft.Smith say about this?

 

[23738]

That pistol needs an all-expenses paid vacation in Fort Smith, AR, and like, yesterday.

If it is the trigger bar, that puppy is FUBAR and SOL and probably some other acronyms even I haven't heard of. Yet.

But the seller of that gun needs to see the first sentence of this post.

 

[Zebra]

T-bird,

Before you go on with what else this puppy needs, just look at your own PPS M1 barrel. I did.

 

[chandler5566]

You gentlemen appear to have forgotten Gordo's thread from Feb. Ft Smith absolutely stands by their "normal wear" position although I believe Gordo finally received a replacement barrel because the damage (peening) had deepened dangerously close to the chamber.

http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/pps/70650-pps-m2-barrel-peened-near-feed-ramp.html

 

[N4KVE]

So reading this, I grabbed my PPS M1, & took it apart. It seems there is a factory cut out on the right side of the feed ramp to make room for the extractor, & bar. There is zero wear there on my barrel. I purchased my gun used, so I don't know the round count. Not even a scratch on the finish. GARY

 

[TNman207]

Over 900 rounds and no signs of similar barrel wear.

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[PPS1980]

Just FYI that photo is of an M2 and is NOT my weapon. My Classic PPS is absolutely fine.

 

[socrates007]

Ok, I have a guy that says "Trigger bar deforms the barrel. That's the only negative thing I've found when I was considering buying one." on his PPS barrel and offered the following picture as evidence. Weirdest thing I've seen.

That image looks similar to Gordo's:

https://www.waltherforums.com/forum...ps-m2-barrel-peened-near-feed-ramp-pps-m2.jpg


As chandler5566 posted this same link to Gordo's thread. The picture is from Gordo - post number 1 from that thread.


https://www.waltherforums.com/forum/pps/70650-pps-m2-barrel-peened-near-feed-ramp.html

 

[muckaleewarrior71]

You guys must really be bored to yet again revisit this!

 

[CA SURVIVOR]

if trigger bar actually deforming the barrel, three things are going on barrel should have been machined accordantly or very soft steel on the feed ramp or a hell of strong trigger bar, none are good.

 

[imaoldfart]

The trigger bar is not deforming the barrel. But it IS chewing it up. Piss poor design and R&D.

 

[CA SURVIVOR]

yep, chewing it up is more like.

 

[PPS1980]

That image looks similar to Gordo's:

https://www.waltherforums.com/forum...ps-m2-barrel-peened-near-feed-ramp-pps-m2.jpg


As chandler5566 posted this same link to Gordo's thread. The picture is from Gordo - post number 1 from that thread.


https://www.waltherforums.com/forum/pps/70650-pps-m2-barrel-peened-near-feed-ramp.html

As I said, it was raised on another forum in the context I noted in my original post.

 

[Grunt67]

Out of curiosity, I looked at my M2, it had just a tiny bit of bluing off. Nothing to get excited about. No damage to metal.

 

[muckaleewarrior71]

Out of curiosity, I looked at my M2, it had just a tiny bit of bluing off. Nothing to get excited about. No damage to metal.

Mine has that tiny nick in the corner and I’ve had it well over two years with hundreds of rounds fired. No spreading or issues here. If it ever becomes an issue I’ll address it. I don’t see anything to get excited about unless yours actually has an issue. I definitely won’t lose any sleep over a gun.

Cheers!

 

[socrates007]

I believe that in the mega-thread that was over 60 pages long, only Gordo received a new PPS M2 pistol, and SaltyNC got a new barrel and trigger bar assembly if I remember correctly. That thread was several months long and only two people reported severe peening issues to the point of needing replacement. So the issue is real, but it seems very small percentage-wise. Unless someone else has some hard statistics proving that the issue is widespread and severe in all of those cases. I don't believe that ever was concluded.

 

[Grunt67]

I believe that in the mega-thread that was over 60 pages long, only Gordo received a new PPS M2 pistol, and SaltyNC got a new barrel and trigger bar assembly if I remember correctly. That thread was several months long and only two people reported severe peening issues to the point of needing replacement. So the issue is real, but it seems very small percentage-wise. Unless someone else has some hard statistics proving that the issue is widespread and severe in all of those cases. I don't believe that ever was concluded.

Well know fact, people report the bad stuff far more than the good. Seems most of the various issues we've discussed lately, have been isolated incidents. Makes for good discussion, but sometimes the math gets lost in the shuffle. Just saying.....