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Ah, yes he did have one...it was also, I believe, a .25 cal.

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I don't think so. The AR-7 was a .22LR. Bond's Beretta was the .25ACP. :)
That is correct.

There are also anti-fan clubs based on that rifle. This is the first time in all my wanderings through the internet that I've ever seen someone say something good about one lol.
 

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Actually, in "From Russia With Love", Q describes it as an AR7 folding sniper's rifle, caliber .25. In reallity, I don't think the AR7 was ever offered in anything other than .22.
 

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Actually, in "From Russia With Love", Q describes it as an AR7 folding sniper's rifle, caliber .25. In reallity, I don't think the AR7 was ever offered in anything other than .22.
That could very well be. I sure haven't seen it offered in anything but .22LR.

Dave: The ones I've fired and owned were all 100% reliable and surprisingly accurate. My only complaint was the small magazines that came with them. You could suck down an 8-round mag in no time. They have 16 round mags available now, so that helps a lot. Perhaps the anti-AR7 crowd thought Bond actually shot down the HELICOPTER with it instead of killing the pilot. Most Bond forums I've seen are a wealth of misinformation :D

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Sadly every AR7 I have come across was unreliable, but that could have been due to a number of factors. The original model has been made by a least a half dozen outfits, sometimes quality was not always "job one".

oo7 had a very early version of the rifle, love that "burl" plastic stock which matches the plastic in the brown PPK stocks.

Best part about Bond's rifle was the advanced "infra-red lens", pretty hot stuff for 1963!
 

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The basic layout was derived from an earlier Armalite bolt-action rifle in .22 Hornet, intended as a survival gun for downed AF pilots. Gene Stoner designed both of them, the .22 semi-auto almost on a lark; he thought it would be a neat idea, and it was. The design was very well thought out, has the simplest trigger/sear mechanism for a semi-auto that I've ever seen, and the originals made by Armalite were very reliable.

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I have a Survival Arms AR-7 in .22LR purchased about 10 years ago.
Yes, in the FRWL movie they say it is a 25 caliber "folding snipers rifle" instead of a "take-down survival rifle". It is surprisingly accurate with its rudimentary sights although it is limited to a specific Remington Hi-Velocity load.
 

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I have a Survival Arms AR-7 in .22LR purchased about 10 years ago.
Yes, in the FRWL movie they say it is a 25 caliber "folding snipers rifle" instead of a "take-down survival rifle". It is surprisingly accurate with its rudimentary sights although it is limited to a specific Remington Hi-Velocity load.
Ahh yes...that's the company that made the one I had. It worked fine for me and never had any malfunctions. Hollyweird takes some extreme liberties with descriptions of guns among other inaccuracies. Note that in "Dr. No" Bond is required to turn in his "ladies psitol" for the PPK. But take a close look at the Beretta. It's not the small pipsqueak .25 auto that we all picture. It's fully as big as the PPK he is getting.



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That scene in "Dr. No" is infamous!

Bond actually turns in a Beretta 1934 in .32, and is given in return a Walther PP in .380!

In the next film "From Russia with Love", Bond finally has a PPK, evidently like the Walther PP in the previous film, it too is a .380!!!

Nothing in movies is what it seems!!!! :eek:
 

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That scene in "Dr. No" is infamous!

Bond actually turns in a Beretta 1934 in .32, and is given in return a Walther PP in .380!

In the next film "From Russia with Love", Bond finally has a PPK, evidently like the Walther PP in the previous film, it too is a .380!!!

Nothing in movies is what it seems!!!! :eek:
Really? In the book the Beretta is .25 caliber.
 

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Ogie,

Bond in the books carried the .25 Beretta model 418. Bond was quite a gunsmith, he removed the grips, wrapped the butt with tape, sawed off the front sight and shortened the barrel .... a gun that would make a real gunslinger shiver!!

For the movies, as in Dr No, the prop men must have figured a Beretta is a Beretta is a Beretta, and likewise with the Walther PP standing in for a PPK.
Nowdays with blue-ray and DVDs they pay alot more attention to props!!!!

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Don't waste your time or money on "Die Another Day", it is crap. Rent "Casino Royale", a first class Bond film. Since Daniel Craig is a Brit, his opinion on US politics is really nothing more than his opinion - who cares?

Pierce Brosnan was a worthless "candy store" oo7, who now admits to "walking through" the part. Not a big surprise given the quality of his Bond films.
 

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153: Too late. I got Die Another Day and it's tonight's entertainment :D
Actually, I just bought it to see the P99 in action. As to Casino Royale, I was watching TV this afternoon and drinking a Diet Pepsi. The first Tomb Raider movie was on and my wife and I were watching it. We'd both seen it before a million times, but it was the only thing worth watching until tonight. Lara Croft was talking with some old geezer about the weird device she found inside a clock, when she is interrupted by some geeky-looking goofus walking up the stairs. I recognized the guy as Lara Croft's competitor in the hunt for artifacts. My wife blurts out "hey, there's the new James Bond!!" I snotted my Diet Pepsi right out my nose and yelled "no freaking way!!". But sure enough, this sissy-boy-looking twerp was the new James Bond. Good grief.
No way I will watch that Bond movie. I'd rather be strapped down and be forced to watch the 1967 Peter Sellers/David Niven/Woody Allen version (which TRULY SUCKED), than watch the new Casino Royale. BTW...Casino Royale was the first Bond book. Bond SHOULD be carrying a Beretta, not a P99 or PPK. I suppose the plot and storyline have absolutely nothing to do with the original. I'll never forget in the book where they were torturing Bond in that "special chair". Yikes!!! :eek:

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they monkeyed with the story line. Being a serious Bond Fan, and prepared to completely detest Daniel Craig, I give the film a real big Thumbs Up. It has all the makings of early Sean Connery. Craig did a splendid job (gee that hurt) for guy who can't drive a stick and hates guns.

As for the AR-7, I have an original Armalite w/suppressor. Wicked looking but really sucks in the dependability department.
I even rebuilt most of the internals with parts from Henry -- nada. FTF, stove pipe, FTE, ....
 

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DAD? Bad? I could watch that sword fight again and again and again. Brosnan was tough in that scene. Certainly didn't look old at all. If you watch the DVD with the commentary on, he mentions that he kicked the sword away as an ad lib and it dang near killed a camerman and broke the camera!
 

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Well my luck with all things related to Bond sure is consistent. I buy a PPK and the grips fall apart. Now I rent a DVD and just as I am 2 minutes into the movie it LOCKS UP!!!:eek: :mad: :(

<sigh>...tomorrow we will try another video place and hopefully it will be available. The movie started out pretty cool and I was really loooking forward to Halle (Dingle) Berry's large butt, when the dang thing seized up. Oh well. :eek:

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Dep,

This time I'm on Murphy's side, he did you a favor locking up that DVD! :eek:

Since Pierce and I are the same age ( I am often mistaken for him ;) ) I am glad people think he still looks good!!!

For sword fights, I'll take Erroll Flynn. :D
 
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