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Striker guide cracked.

So I was going to disassemble the striker assembly to polish it as suggested in the sticky post here. I look at the striker guide before removing it from the slide and noticed what looks like a crack. Sure enough, it is cracked. Is this something I can buy? Maybe a complete striker assembly? I’d hate to have to send it back to Walther for this.




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Please keep us posted on what Walther's response is.
I'm curious as to if they would replace only the sleeve, or the complete firing pin assembly. I just picked up a PPS M2 LE version,
maybe about 6 or 7 months ago. So far it's been great, no issues whatsoever. Now seeing this, I'm tempted to open up mine, and look at it. However I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit nervous. All just out of curiosity, do you ever shoot + P ammo? I know Walther says no +P+ , but + P even though not recommended by them is still allowable, won't void warranty .


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Please keep us posted on what Walther's response is.
I'm curious as to if they would replace only the sleeve, or the complete firing pin assembly. I just picked up a PPS M2 LE version,
maybe about 6 or 7 months ago. So far it's been great, no issues whatsoever. Now seeing this, I'm tempted to open up mine, and look at it. However I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit nervous. All just out of curiosity, do you ever shoot + P ammo? I know Walther says no +P+ , but + P even though not recommended by them is still allowable, won't void warranty .

How would Walther replace the firing pin when a PPS doesn't have one in the first place? :rolleyes::D

It's a striker. And the plastic piece on the end is all that's broke.

When you ruin or wear out a tire, do you get a new wheel, too? ;)


Don't dry fire your PPS....else this will happen. Use a snap cap if you want to dry fire it..

+p ammo won't cause this...it's the striker slamming forward with nothing for it to stop on, it puts all the stress of the forward travel onto the plastic piece, it's simply too small to be made robust enough to withstand the force, basically.

OP, look up the part number, then call Walther's CS and tell them that number. It's simple enough to replace, you're already halfway there going by your pictures of the disassembled striker... ;)
 

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Please keep us posted on what Walther's response is.
I'm curious as to if they would replace only the sleeve, or the complete firing pin assembly. I just picked up a PPS M2 LE version,
maybe about 6 or 7 months ago. So far it's been great, no issues whatsoever. Now seeing this, I'm tempted to open up mine, and look at it. However I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit nervous. All just out of curiosity, do you ever shoot + P ammo? I know Walther says no +P+ , but + P even though not recommended by them is still allowable, won't void warranty .


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I have not fired anything but standard pressure ammo through this pistol. Don’t know about the previous owner.


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How would Walther replace the firing pin when a PPS doesn't have one in the first place? :rolleyes::D

It's a striker. And the plastic piece on the end is all that's broke.

When you ruin or wear out a tire, do you get a new wheel, too? ;)


Don't dry fire your PPS....else this will happen. Use a snap cap if you want to dry fire it..

+p ammo won't cause this...it's the striker slamming forward with nothing for it to stop on, it puts all the stress of the forward travel onto the plastic piece, it's simply too small to be made robust enough to withstand the force, basically.

OP, look up the part number, then call Walther's CS and tell them that number. It's simple enough to replace, you're already halfway there going by your pictures of the disassembled striker... ;)
The pistol hasn’t been dry fired without a snap cap except at disassembly. I am not the original owner so I can’t say what may have happened before me. I’m going to request they send me 2 so i have a backup.


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Walther promptly emailed me back this morning and asked if I could install the new guide myself. I told them I could and requested they send me 2 guides so I have a backup. Not too long after I received a shipping confirmation by email.


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Dry firing a PPS won't do this. Walther has made the claim for years that dry firing the pps is perfectly safe for the gun. They certainly wouldn't make that claim if they kept having to repair guns on warranty.

Well, you and Walther are both wrong. Search here, search google.

And I speak from personal experience on this. ;)
 

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How would Walther replace the firing pin when a PPS doesn't have one in the first place? :D

It's a striker. And the plastic piece on the end is all that's broke.

When you ruin or wear out a tire, do you get a new wheel, too?


Don't dry fire your PPS....else this will happen. Use a snap cap if you want to dry fire it..

+p ammo won't cause this...it's the striker slamming forward with nothing for it


Sorry wrong terminology on my part. Meant to say striker assembly.
I didn't say + P would cause that. However Walther specifically says not to use +P+
If I wear out or need to replace a tire, not usually. However if the wheel gets damaged, then yes I would. If it was a Thunderbird Sport w/ a 302, hell I might just replace all 4 on a classy ride like that.




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Well, you and Walther are both wrong. Search here, search google.
And I speak from personal experience on this. ;)

There is a long thread on this very topic here at the Forum.\
Here is one post:


- ""As I mentioned in my previous post, I sent the following email to Walther America Customer Service:


"I own a Walther PPS 9mm and would like to know if there are any issues regarding dry firing the pistol with the chamber empty for training and practice? Would this be harmful to the pistol in any way?"


I received the following reply from Mark Rossini:

"You should have no problems dry firing
That is only for rimfire cartridges (22 cal )"


Here's Mark's email address...


Rossini, Mark <[email protected]>

Milspec ""




I'll trust Walther over you, but you're free to use snapcaps. Can't hurt.
 

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There is a long thread on this very topic here at the Forum.\
Here is one post:


- ""As I mentioned in my previous post, I sent the following email to Walther America Customer Service:


"I own a Walther PPS 9mm and would like to know if there are any issues regarding dry firing the pistol with the chamber empty for training and practice? Would this be harmful to the pistol in any way?"


I received the following reply from Mark Rossini:

"You should have no problems dry firing
That is only for rimfire cartridges (22 cal )"


Here's Mark's email address...


Rossini, Mark <[email protected]>

Milspec ""




I'll trust Walther over you, but you're free to use snapcaps. Can't hurt.

Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strong point, and rest assured, nearly every case of cracked striker guides results from dry firing, at least as far as the PPS is concerned. Both of mine had this happen. I'll trust my own experiences over that of someone who may or may not have actual, hands-on, practical experience with this pistol, such as the gentleman you got the email from. ;)

I would not ever dry fire a .22 caliber firearm as usually the striker/pin get damage in doing so..
 

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^^ Dude, he's quoting a post from a separate thread by another forum member. The email correspondence concerning dry firing he is quoting appears to be between the forum member (Milspec) and a S&W Walther rep (Mark Rossini). It doesn't appear that Bassackwards received the email reply he is quoting as you are suggesting, so there's no reason to make comments such as "Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strong point." Now, I would agree that using snap caps is the smart thing to do if you want to practice dry firing the pistol just to be on the safe side.
 

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The funny thing is, when I called Walther and asked for a second striker guide, the voice on the other end was aware that they were prone to breaking due to dry firing. And I dry fired my 9mm PPS (BD code) a LOT.

We can agree to disagree, beyond that, I'm not changing my mind, and I am not trying to change anyone elses mind, either. :)
 

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Received and installed the new guide today. Pretty quick resolution by Walther.


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Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strong point, and rest assured, nearly every case of cracked striker guides results from dry firing, at least as far as the PPS is concerned. Both of mine had this happen. I'll trust my own experiences over that of someone who may or may not have actual, hands-on, practical experience with this pistol, such as the gentleman you got the email from. ;)

I would not ever dry fire a .22 caliber firearm as usually the striker/pin get damage in doing so..
Okay sooooo let me see if I understand this correctly, ( reading comprehension is a very strong ability of mine) you have had at least 2 PPS striker guides crack, due to dry firing. Speaking for myself of course, I'm pretty sure ( 99.9 %) after I had cracked the 1st one, from dry firing, that I surely wouldn't have done it a 2nd time.




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The first one, the trigger smoothed out quite nicely after about 300 to 400 dry firings.

The BD code 9mm had about 140 rounds when it malfunctioned due to design defects, when I got it back from Walther, the trigger was worse than anything, I did god knows how many dry firings with it, and it was only a few months ago that I noticed the plastic was cracked.

It's been replaced, but I'll stand by my opinion that this gun doesn't like a lot of dry firing without snap caps.

PSA..if you own a PPS, might be a good idea to thoroughly inspect the plastic striker guide. ;)

(and buy a snap cap or three if you want to "fire" out the rough triggers..)
 
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