Steyr M9
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The grip angle was WAY off for me. It has a lot more angle than even a Glock, my natural index had the pistol aiming at the ceiling.
The trapezoidal sights would take some getting used to as well.
I haven't heard of too many reliability issues, other than needing a good break-in period, and the mag release button being rather fragile.
There is a lot to like about the Steyrs, but I would wait until they come out with a second or third generation version.
The trapezoidal sights would take some getting used to as well.
I haven't heard of too many reliability issues, other than needing a good break-in period, and the mag release button being rather fragile.
There is a lot to like about the Steyrs, but I would wait until they come out with a second or third generation version.
Hi, I checked one out last month. But I've had the P99 for about 8 months now and several thousand rnds through it. So I guess I was compareing it to the P99. I havnt got to shoot the Steyr, so just from handling them I wasn't real impressed. It felt bulkier, and was wider. And since I ccw the P99 width matters to me. And since I go the 9mm pistols and get excellent full cap mags for a decent price. That would be a concern with the Steyr. Also I could find very few owners for any feedback on them. And factory service could be a problem if needed. And if ya think aftermarket accessorys are few for the P99, I think ther even fewer for the Steyr. And it didn't seem to point very well for me either.
So with these things considered, the cheap price was the only real selling point I found in the pistol.
So when compareing the P99 and the Steyr, the $150 saveings of the Steyr was overruled with the mag issue alone. Now the Steyr may be a very good pistol, but for my tastes and shooting the Walther P99 is a great pistol,
So with these things considered, the cheap price was the only real selling point I found in the pistol.
So when compareing the P99 and the Steyr, the $150 saveings of the Steyr was overruled with the mag issue alone. Now the Steyr may be a very good pistol, but for my tastes and shooting the Walther P99 is a great pistol,
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The Steyr is a good pistol, but it gets points off for the grip angle.
The Steyr factory lost their lease over a year ago and they are on hiatus until the factory can find another building to set up in.
Steyr's are dirt cheap now compared to when they were introduced several years ago. I don't know the status of their production as of this writing, but don't count on any factory support for a while if things go wrong.
The Steyr factory lost their lease over a year ago and they are on hiatus until the factory can find another building to set up in.
Steyr's are dirt cheap now compared to when they were introduced several years ago. I don't know the status of their production as of this writing, but don't count on any factory support for a while if things go wrong.
I am the happy owner of both a Steyr m9 and P99 in .40. Perhaps the caliber difference makes for an apples and oranges comparison, but I find I can empty the 10 rounds from the steyr in about a quarter of the time that I can with the P99, with better accuracy.
The P99 is extremely accurate, and both guns exhibit flawless reliability. A friend of mine can shoot the Walther much better than I can using slow fire technique. I have much better luck with the Steyr. I am able to keep all shots in about a 5 inch group firing one round per second at 20 feet with the Steyr. I cannot even reacquire the front sight that quickly with the Walther, and I have Meprolights on it (highly recommended, by the way).
Most importantly, the trigger on the P99 is horrible compared to the Steyr. The Steyr has a Glock-like trigger in that it has the same pull from start to finish, but the Steyr trigger is much better than a Glock or P99. The reason I say this is that it is much more crisp. Not as crisp as a 1911, but total trigger travel is about 1/8", which is the best I've seen on a polymer pistol. With the nearly 1/2" travel on the standard p99 in single action mode, I tend to pull about 1 round per magazine well off POA. That just doesn't happen with the Steyr. I know it is a "training and practice" problem, but a good firearm shouldn't require any special skills to shoot reliably. The very first time I pulled the trigger on the Steyr, I got a dead center bullseye. All I could do was grin and feel VERY happy with my latest purchase.
I am interested in the P99 QA. I believe that it might solve the trigger problem of the standard DA/SA gun, but I haven't had the chance to try one yet.
As far as grip angle goes, it probably depends on the shooter. The Steyr does have a more abrupt angle than any other gun I can think of, (except a Ruger .22) and in such things it usually isn't a good idea to stray far from the norm. However, I find it very comfortable. The grip is also smaller than the P99 which should make for more concealable carry. (I live in Ohio, and can't carry...yet!)
Jim
The P99 is extremely accurate, and both guns exhibit flawless reliability. A friend of mine can shoot the Walther much better than I can using slow fire technique. I have much better luck with the Steyr. I am able to keep all shots in about a 5 inch group firing one round per second at 20 feet with the Steyr. I cannot even reacquire the front sight that quickly with the Walther, and I have Meprolights on it (highly recommended, by the way).
Most importantly, the trigger on the P99 is horrible compared to the Steyr. The Steyr has a Glock-like trigger in that it has the same pull from start to finish, but the Steyr trigger is much better than a Glock or P99. The reason I say this is that it is much more crisp. Not as crisp as a 1911, but total trigger travel is about 1/8", which is the best I've seen on a polymer pistol. With the nearly 1/2" travel on the standard p99 in single action mode, I tend to pull about 1 round per magazine well off POA. That just doesn't happen with the Steyr. I know it is a "training and practice" problem, but a good firearm shouldn't require any special skills to shoot reliably. The very first time I pulled the trigger on the Steyr, I got a dead center bullseye. All I could do was grin and feel VERY happy with my latest purchase.
I am interested in the P99 QA. I believe that it might solve the trigger problem of the standard DA/SA gun, but I haven't had the chance to try one yet.
As far as grip angle goes, it probably depends on the shooter. The Steyr does have a more abrupt angle than any other gun I can think of, (except a Ruger .22) and in such things it usually isn't a good idea to stray far from the norm. However, I find it very comfortable. The grip is also smaller than the P99 which should make for more concealable carry. (I live in Ohio, and can't carry...yet!)
Jim
Thanks all who responded. Some more research found several people who are very happy with the pistol. After finding them NIB for $299 + $9.99 shipping from CDN Investments I had to go for it, I don't see how I could go wrong. Should have it on Thursday.
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First of all I own both a p99 in 40sw and the little brother of the M in the form of the s40. I own both so that I can have two different size guns for ccw under different types of clothing as there is no p99 comct at this point.
As far as a comparison o the two there are many differences
First the trigger pull on the Steyr is much shorter and lighter. However if there is an ftf you must rack the slide to remove the cuprit round in order to fire again. The p99 tigger will fall back to da mode and let you try the same round again with the long pull.
The grip angles ae markedly different between the two guns. I happen to like both so I practice with both guns so I can aim each properly.
As far as the sights the p99 has three dot while the Steyr has the odd triangle/trapeoid setup. I love these sights and wish I could get them on my p99 as I feel they are much quicker in target aquisition.
Both of these guns are utterly reliable and much more ergonomic and pleasing to the eye than any Glock,1911,HK,Sig etc....
I love both these guns so much I will never part with them. For me they are at the pinnacle of modern firearms engineering and can only politely nod as others talk aboth their 1911s,Sigs,Hk,S&Ws,Berettas,Glocks and undoubtedy other fine firearms but not for me.
As far as a comparison o the two there are many differences
First the trigger pull on the Steyr is much shorter and lighter. However if there is an ftf you must rack the slide to remove the cuprit round in order to fire again. The p99 tigger will fall back to da mode and let you try the same round again with the long pull.
The grip angles ae markedly different between the two guns. I happen to like both so I practice with both guns so I can aim each properly.
As far as the sights the p99 has three dot while the Steyr has the odd triangle/trapeoid setup. I love these sights and wish I could get them on my p99 as I feel they are much quicker in target aquisition.
Both of these guns are utterly reliable and much more ergonomic and pleasing to the eye than any Glock,1911,HK,Sig etc....
I love both these guns so much I will never part with them. For me they are at the pinnacle of modern firearms engineering and can only politely nod as others talk aboth their 1911s,Sigs,Hk,S&Ws,Berettas,Glocks and undoubtedy other fine firearms but not for me.
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