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So many destroyed frames :(

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Ignorance at it's finest. Not you guys....the people or entity that decided to destroy a part of a gun to "make people safe"...

Between forum censoring and morals, I can't say in strong enough language exactly what I think about the matter.

A rock in the road would have far more sense than the weak fool(s) who thought that rendering old guns useless other than parts would do something to curb crime.

But this we know, so I'll STFU and simmer here. God damn it...:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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A rock in the road would have far more sense than the weak fool(s) who thought that rendering old guns useless other than parts would do something to curb crime.
Those who believe a disarmed society is a safe society are exceedingly poor students of history.

On a side note, that site is most curious. Nowhere can I find a physical location of their operation or sources. They do seem to have a lot of hard-to-find goodies though. Anyone ever used them before?

-Pilotsteve
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Sources are as stated on the site "They come from a number of sources including government auctions, private collections, and distributors around the world".

I guess one silver lining is that if you don't mind paying above top dollar and are in need, there are some interesting parts finds there. Some of the slides appear to be in ok to very good condition when zoomed in and there are some ZM and crown over N markings. The ones that piss me off more than anything are the ones where a quick hack job was done and the "worker" couldn't be bothered to take the time to properly remove the cocking piece and just cut through it. They also have a wide array of parts for other brands and fire arms types arms well.

As far as location goes, it states: "Sadly, no. Being an online-only seller is key to our strategy of keeping costs--and therefore prices--low. Our warehouse is not open to the public". I'm curious as to what the shipping label will say.
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Jumping to conclusions. There is nothing here that says that the frames were intentionally destroyed by any entity or government, let alone for any crime-control or whatever political reasons.

Depending on the company’s business model, and the legal situation where they are located and from where they are buying, it may simply be more profitable to sell paperwork-free, unrestricted parts kits rather than complete guns; their prices aren’t that cheap compared to the guns, and if they’re simply buying up defective guns to part out, the frames may be sitting in boxes in their warehouse.....
That seems a lot of stuff to have simply scrounged it. Considering the nature of the offerings, have to believe that the complete guns would have been more valuable, but it isn't necessarily true in the scrapyard business.
As always, if only they could talk.
Moon
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I think this is a marvelous business. At least the good parts of these guns can be reused to finish off out of print firearms that are broken or victims of Bubba.

I’ve spent time in the Property Room of the local PD, they don’t part out anything and the guns that go to the furnace would make you cry.
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I think this is a marvelous business. ...
That remains to be demonstrated. This is not the same proposition as buying a parts kit of a machine gun you cannot otherwise find (or afford) complete, and have a ready source for a receiver on which to build a semi-auto version.

P38s and PPKs are as common as dirt. Stray stripped frames are not. Unless you already have a stripped frame and none of the other parts, it's pretty hard to economically justify spending $300-800 or more for a parts kit to wind up with...what?... a mismatched shooter and bunch of leftover parts you'll never need. At those prices, for marginally more money one can buy a complete gun without all the gunsmithing headaches.

Does the fact that this online seller avoids identifying himself or even revealing his state of residence set off an alarm bell with anyone besides me?

M
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Yeah, that does smell fishy. But where would all that inventory come from?
Granted, the vendor is flying under the radar by not selling guns.
Moon
If I had the frame, I would purchase the .32 PPK/S kit just to satisfy my curiosity. That particular kit looks like it was harvested from a gun that was hardly used and Ulm .32 parts don't come up very often. Everything else as Mike stated, is over priced. For .380 models I can build shooters with clean, hand selected parts, for under $400 and I'm lucky to see one or two stripped frames come on the market each year.

They also charge sales tax and $9.29 - $27.71 for 2 day shipping.
If I had the frame, ...
If I were the King of England, I would live in Buckingham Palace.

There is no shortage of used but serviceable Ulm .32 parts if that's what you need. It's simply that there are not many stripped frames bobbing about to utilize an entire overpriced "kit".

M
Yeah, that does smell fishy. But where would all that inventory come from?
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Moon
Browsing through their inventory and noting the high incidence of sawed-off shotguns and recent or current production long guns suggests to me that a large proportion of these guns are coming from an accumulation of police seizures in some large city, possibly under some agreement to destroy them as firearms in exchange for salvaging the parts.

It's been done before.

M
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What Mike said.

And in addition, the seller may be skirting some legalities, if the entire firearm is to be destroyed, not just the frame...

But whatever the reason is....there's something going on. Nobody sane that's not involved with confiscation is going to sell parts of guns in such a manner.

That said, I'd be wary.
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What's heartbreaking about that? Send me 75 bucks (half of $139.95) and I'll send you a "kit" of junk just like it.

M
What's heartbreaking about that? Send me 75 bucks (half of $139.95) and I'll send you a "kit" of junk just like it.



M
Just the condition of the slide. It's like watching one of those extra long ASPCA commercials with the abused animals.

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Sure looks to me like the seller is connected to municipal agencies, they would not want it known they are selling gun parts. As for who is selling these kits, I really don’t know who runs Numrich or most other parts houses. As far as what I saw on the web page, there were no “controlled” items.

They are just bags of parts ... don’t want them don’t buy them. The frames are already destroyed.
Sometimes there is satisfaction in just having things that belonged somewhere.
I have a CHIPs carbine that was made specifically for the Cali patrol by Colt, and then sold off (legally) thru' CDNN.

It makes me grin every time I pick it up; figure it would really wank Nancy Pelosi if she knew I had it.
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