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Where can one buy a silencer kit for a P99?
 

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Are you looking for the barrel
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If so sit down and hold your breath... if you want a Walther original extended barrel it is costly..... but you can get one here
Earl's repair
I don't think it is listed.... but call him.... and ask about it ...
 

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Wow. I will need the barrel and the suppresor.

I am not sure if I should go with walther brand, however I can go with anything.

Any recommendations? DOes anyone here have a suppressor?
 

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Well Earl will sell you the Barrel alone too......
however that still comes at a high price....
I know "Rockets" on this forum has a P99 supressed... send him a PM and I am sure you will get a reply,,,,,
 

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mikep99,
I see from your signature that you have a .40 P99. If I'm not mistaken, the options directly from Walther for the threaded barrel are for the 9mm.

That said... extended and threaded barrels for the P99 have been produced by Jarvis and BarSto, although BarSto is NO LONGER making barrels for the P99 (as of Dec 2005).

Jarvis P99 Barrels

Once you get in contact with Jarvis, they will also want to know what threading you require. Of course, you will want that to match your suppressor threading.

A good site for information on a suppressor for the P99 (and others) is Advanced Armament Corp ("AAC"). Last I looked into the topic, their "Evolution-40" would be the right one for a .40 P99.

Evolution-40 Page

An interesting tidbit about the Evolution-40 is that it can also be used with a rifle/carbine by way of their "Fixed Barrel Weapon Spacer".

Evolution-40 FAQ

That's just the hardware. The ability to own a suppressor also varies by state and AAC has information on that too.

Ownership

Keep us posted... I am very interested in what you end up with.

 

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good info Mambro,,,,
I guess I made too many assumtions......
 

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Thank you so much guys, especially Mambo.

I knew that my P99 was a .40 and was going to mention after I realized it was very hard to get a .40 silencer, but came in to late.

I don't understand. Don't they just sell the barrel and the suppressor that go together? I don't know what I need to do in reference to asking them for the threading that I need? Can't I just tell them I need a .40 cal suppressor with the barrel that goes with it?

What is the legality of owning one of these? Does anyone know if you can own one in florida?
 

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read this.....
Same link I think than Mambro posted..........

first of all you need to go to a Class III dealer and start the paperwork for a Supressor.....they will point you in the direction what else you need to do (have police sign off on the paperwork and so forth)
you will have to pay in addition the the silencer a $200 tax fee...sit tight and wait a few months for the paperwork to return....
not as bad as it looks like really... but just some running around and a few $$$

you can get the threaded barrel anytime ..... no need for paperwork or anything....
 

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Are there different brands of suppressors available for the P99 9mm?

What's the difference between buying a threaded barrell from Jarvis or from Earls?

How many of you own suppressors?
 

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The German barrels from Earls are threaded 13.5x1 left hand (other ones were available too, though all in "German" pitch )
Jarvis I belive to be 1/2 x 28 tpi which is the more common thread for a american made silencer....
the HK USP/SD is threaded 13.5 x 1 also
again this is for the 9mm and not the .40S&W

As to the supressors I am not much help as I don't have any at all... sorry
 

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MikeP99,

When planning to buy a NFA weapon or suppressor, do a great deal of research before you start.

First, start with the State of Florida. Can you own a suppressor? I don't know, but a call to several local gun shops will give you an answer. They can point you to a NFA dealer. There is a lot of paperwork and the dealer can help you deal with it.

Second, You have to get the approval of the Chief Law Enforcement Officer [CLEO] where you live on the BATFE forms. It might be the Chief of Police, SHeriff, County/District Attorney, or State Attorney General, depending on where you live and who is willign to approve it. You'll need three fingerprint cards that are acceptable to BATFE and they are VERY tough on fingerprints. Get a fingerprint/ID specialist to do it, not just a street cop or a clerk at the PD. The dealer will help you complete the documents properly, but be complete and detail oriented. It will get refused if you don't.

Third, make sure you know what you want before you buy it. Suppressors have terrible resale value and few people want them. You can't easily trade them in and there are no exchanges if it doesn't fit/wrong color/buyers remorse/etc. There are a lot of claims in the industry and everyone thinks theirs is the best. Try before you buy and comparison shop. Shoot as many as you can and check accuracy. Some pistols require an add on recoil device to ensure functioning. This is an extra cost device. Expect to have to get higher profile sights, so that you can see over the suppressor and aim it.

Fourth, make certain you secure the suppressor in a safe. An expensive, bolted to the foundation of your house model. Having an NFA weapon or device stolen will bring down the local police, the BATFE, the media, and a lot of unwanted attention on the victim. The harder you make it to steal, the better it is for you.

Fifth, have you money ready for the suppressor and the paid tax up front. Use a postal money order for the tax fee and make a photocopy of it. Everything will get paid up front.

Sixth, be patient. You are dealing with the Federal government and they aren't exactly in a hurry, even if you are. Expect the paperwork to get sent back for correction - if it doesn't, thats a bonus. It can take 4 to 6 months to get though it. Expect the 6 month period so you aren't disappointed.

After all this and the paperwork gets approved and you get a tax stamp. Then, you get to go to the dealer and pick up the suppressor.
 

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I have three silencers for my Walther P99's. One for my standard production and one for each of the 007 pistols. I have factory barrels for each of the pistols. If you don't want a factory barrel, your next best option is a Jarvis barrel. At first an NFA purchase seems like it can be a major obstacle, it really is not though. First make sure that the chief law officer will be willing to sign, then find a dealer who will handle the transfer (expect to pay $50). Two passport photos are needed. The $200 tax is a one time fee. ATF has become more efficient with approving paper work; expect to wait about three months, it may even be a little quicker depending on their work load.
 

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Excellent post from BlueIron -- he is right on the money on several points in his post.

Especially about the print cards. I just went through the process to install a silencer on my AR-15 Build. The print cards were returned ........ they were taken by law enforcement, but that is no assurance they will be accepted.

What might have taken 3 months ........... ran into 5 months. Still worth the wait.

Shortly, if and when the political powers change ............ you will no longer have the option of this type of purchase. The first thing that will happen, is the tax stamp that has been at the $200 level for decades will change to maybe $1,000. This in an effort to discourage ownership, without out-right removing this "right ? " . Than the Ban will follow, along with all assault weapons of any type.

JF.
 

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I am no expert.... but I do know that there is ways around the CLEO signature.... since there is some that refuse to sign the papers....
do a lot of talking to Class III dealers and they will be of most help
 

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I am no expert.... but I do know that there is ways around the CLEO signature.... since there is some that refuse to sign the papers....
This is true, but you must be willing to jump through a lot of hoops to do so. You must be a corporate entity to do so, which means you have to usually see an attorney to file incorporation paperwork with the State corporation commission, elect officers, declare business intentions, tax filings, and all the other headaches that go along with business ownership.

BATFE looks at these corporations stringently and can send out regulatory investigators to verify corporate claims. In many cases, it is easier to find a new domicile than it is to form a corporation for the sole purpose of owning a NFA weapon or device.
 

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I was talking about a trust........
 

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I was talking about a trust........
As far as I am aware, there is no provision for a "trust". The NFA provides for a direct transfer from a decedent's estate to the executor, until the status of the weapon/device is resolved. If the proposed inheritor can not qualify for or is ineligible to receive the weapon/device because of state or local laws, the weapon/device will revert to the custody of BATFE.

As many are aware, a trust is a state established investment vehicle designed to conserve the material assets of a person or family and provide for its orderly and proscribed disposition of said assets through the death and or incapacitation of its participants. It has no mechanism for the acquistion of additional property, separate of the person in the trust.
 

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like I said ... I am no expert... but I hope another Member will give his input here as that is how I heard about this.....
 

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I live in Florida and just picked up my .22LR suppressor 2 weeks ago. My local CLEO will not sign NFA forms, so I bought Quicken WillMaker and formed a trust in 1 hour. I had the trust notorized the next day and made a copy of the "Declaration of Trust", mailed that with my C3 dealer's form 4 that he signed to the BATFE.

Five weeks later my dealer had the approved Form 4 in his hands, ready for my to come pick up my suppressor. If you go the trust route there are no CLEO sign offs, no pictures, no fingerprint cards to do. I sent a certificate of citizenship just in case, but not sure you even need that with the trust. I have heard of guys getting approval in as little as 4 weeks with a trust, much less paperwork for the Feds to sort through.

I am doing a SBR now on a HK 9mm rifle, it will go on the trust. Just remember if you do a trust, it belongs to the trust and not you personally. This allows anyone who you name as co-trustee to have possetion of the NFA item also. If the trust is disolved, so goes the NFA item!


Rick
 
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