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Finally.

Several months ago, I decided to take up the sport of shooting. Finally, last Sunday morning, I fired the first mag through my new .40.

After the required safety courses, the application for a Possession and Acquisition Licence, the course at my gun club, the probationary shoots, the application to transport the P99 from the store to my house, the application to transport the P99 from my house to the range, I had the fun  and excitement of shooting some White Box 180gr FMJ.

Observations:

The P99 fits my medium-sized hand better than any other handgun I've handled.

The stock sights are adequate for my 57-year-old eyes.

The recoil is sweet--so I get a very easy and rapid re-sight.

BTW, prior to first use, I lubed the rails and moving parts with Tufoil.

The P99 makes other handguns seem crude, doesn't it?
 

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v65magnafan,
I do think you need to organize a group of activitist to change the government to a pro-liberty atmosphere. Sounds like the government 1. does not trust its subjects, and
2. thinks it knows what is best for you.
Throw em out.
Assert liberty for all.
Less government, more liberty.
-JennYe

 

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Hi,

Thanks for your compassion and interest. I live in Ontario, Canada. The firearms legislation is under federal jurisdiction. Implementation and enforcement are largely provincial.

Unfortunately, Canada does not have a Second Amendment in our constitution. And, the Supreme Court here has ruled that firearms ownership is not a protected right.

So, protect your amendment, Americans, with all your heart and soul.

We do have a gun lobby here, but it's fragmented and somewhat inconsequential. Also, our press tends to report sensationalist gun-violence news.

Furthermore, we have no right to protect property with deadly force. If I use a firearm to protect life, there had better be absolutely no other way.

So, with our very, very strict anti-handgun laws, we still have Jamaican gangs here in Toronto shooting each other up almost every night. Fortunately, though, so far, they tend to blow each other up, rather than innocent passersby. Of course, the gang kids don't register their guns.

Anyway, some gun owners here believe that if we have another depression here, the most recent batch of new Canadians will not be as well-behaved as were Canadians in the last depression. So, a bit of prevention is in order, some gunowners believe.

Another very nice thing about the P99 is its size--and its thinness.

Also, its appearance, especially the all-German one we get here, begins to approach the jewel-like appearance of a fine piece of machinery.

I could have purchased an ex-police Glock and saved a few hundred dollars, but that Glock is one crude item. And, worse, I could not get comfortable with its oddball grip.

The more I learn about handguns, the less I understand why Glock got such a stranglehold on the LE business.
 

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Quote[/b] (v65magnafan @ Sep. 03 2003,8:50)]Several months ago, I decided to take up the sport of shooting.
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The P99 fits my medium-sized hand better than any other handgun I've handled.
Congrats - now that you've gone through all the government stupidity, you can buy as many as you want as fast as you can afford!

It does fit well, eh?

To our American friends: this is what happens when anti-gun forces get entrenched in power.  Bear this in mind when you vote in your next Presidential election.
 

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I guessed as much that it was Canada.
Well it is time for Canadians to get off their collective butts and get active in government. As I said:

Throw em out.
Assert liberty for all.
Less government, more liberty.

Unfortunately the Treaty of Ghent (sp?) barred any further claims by the US to Canada but if it means freeing an "oppressed population" it just may be time to re-establish the articles of liberty in Canada. Just kidding.

But maybe you should not have to put up with the government telling you what you can hear in the way of music played on your radio stations and so on. What you can read in magazines. What languages must appear on labels. That you must feel guilty about the "indigenous" peoples. As I recall the Ojibwa are a mighty fine tribe, and the defeated the Sioux fair and square when the Sioux got ambitious north of Kenora.

As nice as Canada is in most respects the government continues to confound me. Probably confounds a lot of Canadians too.

I do not mean to offend anyone and this is not directed at any person. Just a plea for more liberty and less government in Canada from someone who has spent time there and loves the country and the people.
 

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You guys are correct.

I love Canada and I love the U. S. as well--but for different reasons.

It's a fact, however, that liberal Canadians will set up policies specifically to be different from "the Americans".

Gun laws fall into this category. And things won't get better until the liberals lose a federal election to the conservatives.
But the federal conservatives are in such disarray here, I don't see that happening for years.

Ontario has had a conservative government for a number of years, and the government here is refusing to enforce the stupid laws regarding long-gun registration. Hundreds of illegal handguns are on the streets in Toronto, and the federal government spends almost two billion dollars on a long gun registry. So, if a hunter or a farmer doesn't register his long guns, he gets ten years in jail. If a gangbanger is caught with an unregistered handgun in Toronto, he might get six months.

It's a bit depressing up here politically, but, then again, when I cross the border, I'm in Chuckie and Hillary country.

On a positive note, my club is pretty good. http://www.barriegunclub.org/

On Sunday, I'll get off a few rounds and figure out why my .40 was coming up a bit low at 10 meters. BTW, my German P99 comes with a multilingual manual and a genuine paper target showing a nicely centred cluster at 25m. The target was folded nicely in the carrying case behind the foam, and it was signed by a real human.
 

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Wow, v65, it shouldn't have taken that long. I wrote my restricted firearm test in June (Ottawa) and the CFO sent out my ATT last Friday (and there was a 2-week delay in between because the my paperwork sat in the gun club's PO box during summer holidays).
Sorry to hear about your lengthy delay.
Oh, and BTW, I wouldn't want our neighbours to the south to think we're completely defenceless here. We can use deadly force for protection of persons or property in Canada if there's a reasonable apprehension of "death or grievous bodily harm" (sections 34 to 42 of the Criminal Code). It's actually similar to the laws in many US states.
And glad to hear you're enjoying your P99.
Cheers,
Jammer
 

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Actually, Jammer, I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. However, a Crown Attorney will lay a charge and let a judge and jury determine the appropriateness of the action.

I'd rather go through a trial than plan a funeral.

Also, up here, we do have the four magic words, "You are under arrest." We can use all reasonable force to apprehend and hold a wrongdoer. And if the wrongdoer resists such a citizen's  arrest, deadly force can ensue--if the wrongdoer wants it that way.

I don't have the legalese right, but that's the general idea, eh, Jammer.


Maybe my next topic can be: "How I'm gradually convincing my wife that a P99 in the house is not a catastrophe waiting to happen."
 

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Quote[/b] (v65magnafan @ Sep. 04 2003,11:02)]genuine paper target showing a nicely centred cluster at 25m.
How big is the group, centre-to-centre?  Mine is 2.7", which I thought was pretty big for 25.
 

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Quote[/b] (v65magnafan @ Sep. 05 2003,7:43)]Maybe my next topic can be: "How I'm gradually convincing my wife that a P99 in the house is not a catastrophe waiting to happen."
Take her to the range, and do the 'safety first' thing.
 
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