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How much real difference is there between the S&W model 99 and the Walther model 99?
Besides stainless slide and brand name?
 

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The barrel is overall a bit different too..... The P99 is same diameter all the way through and the SW99 is thicker on the front portion.
Also the triggerguard is a bit different and the slide I think has front serrations which the P99 does not
 

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Do the P99 and SW99 use the same sights? In other words, will night sights for a P99 fit on an SW99?

What night sights are guys using?

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Do the P99 and SW99 use the same sights? In other words, will night sights for a P99 fit on an SW99?

What night sights are guys using?

Thanks,
Yes - it uses the exact same sights. I prev had a SW99, and they have the same sights and you can use the same recoil spring.

I actually damaged the rear sight on my P99 once - and when I called to order the replacement sight - if you order the one for the SW99, it is $10 less.

This is ridiculous, as it is the exact same sight.
 

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JMOFartO:

Well, lets put it this way.

I have a P99c/AS and a P99/AS.. My buddy wanted a P99/AS, but they were a bit scarce at the time so he "settled" for a SW99.

Tim and I have shot together several times, and when we compare my P99/AS to his SW99 it seems there is no difference in reliability or accuracy. For all practical purposes one is as good as the other.. (Mr. Earl would disagree.:eek: :eek:).

The only three differences that come to mind between the P99/AS and the SW99 are: 1. If memory serves the SW99 was cheaper to buy.
2. The S&W came with a lifetime warranty, (my Walther is one year.)
3. My Walther's mags hold 15rds, Tim's SW99 hold 16.


I purchased the Walther over the S&W because frankly I'm a big Walther "homer", and love Walther firearms, and I'm an old fart so the lifetime warranty holds very little attraction for me.

IF I were a younger person the value of the lifetime warranty WOULD be more important and have more value to me.

I notice in the latest CDNN catalog you can buy "test fired only" SW99's in 9mm for less than $400.00 ($369?). I paid $585.00 for my P99/AS.

IMO Walther designed and manufactures a wonderful pistol in the P99 series of firearms and it was smart of S&W to make slight changes and sell what is basically the same firearm under the S&W name.

Having said that, S&W wasn't smart enough to market the fine SW99 very wellafter they started selling them and then they went to the SW990 which imo is not as good a firearm. (And wasn't marketed well either).

Personal opinion/YMMV

JMOFartO:

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Grips and backstraps have a different pattern, and the backstraps of the 2 guns aren't *completely* identical in shape due to slight grip differences. (Although I'm told you can swap them from one gun to the other, if necessary).

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I do not know if it is still in production but S&W did make a version of the P99 QA called the SW99OL that did not have a decocker.
 

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The SW990L was in production as of the end of 2007, can't speak for now.

The SW99 was discontinued at the end of 2006. But, U can still find them new on shelves.

I had one, and whenever I have duplicates of a weapon - I generally never use 1 and end up selling it. So, I sold my SW99 last year to help pay for my FN Five Seven.

For me, my P99 A/S was a tiny bit more accurate for me than the SW99 was. I shot them head to head many times, and I tended to hit the bullseye more with the Walther.
 

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As with all things on this forum, a lot of this ground has been covered before. Here are some links to past discussions of the issue, for those who want to discover (or rediscover) the past:

http://www.waltherforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3695&highlight=sw99+differences+with+p99


http://www.waltherforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2213&highlight=differences+between+sw99+p99


Here's one that included a poll:

http://www.waltherforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2609&highlight=differences+between+sw99+p99
 

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Between the 9mm Walther I used to own and my current SW 99 there is indeed quite a difference. The trigger on the Walther was smooth from day one, the SW literally feels like someone dumped a handfull of sand inside it. Its not a frame issue, its due to tool marks left when the striker channel was cut in the slide by S&W. From this I'd be forced to say that S&W's workmanship is NOT up to German standards.
 

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SW99 has a blackened stainless slide with Melonite coating.
P99 has a carbon steel slide with Tennifer coating.
Neither one is a "coating" but different trade names for the same basic chemisty embedded into the base metal. Tennifer/Melonite are NOT finishes or coatings yet you read they are all the time in the gun forums. You can completely strip the blackened finish off the gun and the Tennifer/Melonite remain in the base metal and it extends fairly deep. The primary advantage of Tennifer/Melonite is that it does a good job of preventing rust and adds hardness to the metal. It is the exterior blackened finish - could be a spray on paint, Teflon based whatever that determines lustre, color, and degree of wearability.
 

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Yah, und der German P99s are made with superior German steel forged in the flames of Valhalla!:)
I don't know about the formula of the steel (though German specs ARE different from U.S.), but one thing is sure: the accuracy of its machining and heat treatment was inspected by Teutonic technicians, not by bucolic drones whose previous employment was pulling tits on a dairy farm.

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Quoting Shipwreck...

"And, there was a limited edition of P99 that has a tv built into the backstrap. U won't find that on the Smith version ."

I have that limited edition with the TV, but all it plays is "Casino Royale". When Deputy visits I'll pull the TV off and put the medium backstrap on.

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Neither one is a "coating" but different trade names for the same basic chemisty embedded into the base metal.
Yes, I know that but it is much easier to call it a "coating" than to write a paragraph explaining why it isn't a coating, but a treatment.

Tennifer and melonite are the same, but the P99 and SW99 differ in the fact that the P99 has a carbon steel slide and the SW99 has a blackened stainless steel slide.
 
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