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Is there anyway to purchase additional suppressors without having to reinvent the wheel each time. I have one in a trust....want to get a couple more...but does the whole deal have to be repeated from scratch each time? 1917
 

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Per my pal the FFL guy you have to start the whole procedure over again for each additional “can” you wish to buy. No shortcuts for being a previous or current owner.
 

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Thanks IronHand, I was hoping there was some way all the data could be kept, the picture, the fingerprints, bla, bla, bla and not have to do it all over every time. Seems if you have suppressors and a CCPermit.....that should count for something toward speeding up the process. 1917
 

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Each tax stamp is treated as a unique and individual transaction. There is no assumption that previous information (even last week's) is still valid.

Less or until the laws are changed (very unlikely) you will have to submit the information as required.
 

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Silencer Shop has their electronic kiosks. Do it once and they store the info for you. Buy something, let them know and they take care of everything for you. Their photo app even keeps track of your photo. If it has been more than 6 months since your last photo it will tell you to take another photo which will download to their sight.

Their kiosk takes your fingerprints and stores them for future use as well as your address and or trust information. It is a pain sometimes getting the kiosk to take the fingerprints, but once done it is done forever. Check them out. It seems like what you are looking for.

I have done several Form 4's with them and even a Form 1 with them and it was super easy.
 

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Thanks Rogue, that sounds like it is as good as it gets. And that sounds like the process I used about a year ago. I checked and my shop is on the Silencer Shop list. 1917
 

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While the Silencer Shop will fill out all your forms for you, many localities have local provisions that also must be submitted, things like a letter from the Sheriff that are necessary for each tax transfer stamp.

You'll still have the processing time of the background checks...seems to me the forms only take a couple of hours to do. But anything that speeds the process may be a good thing if you don't mind trusting still another entity with your personal information.
 

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I wouldn't doubt that Olsoul, but around here all the Sheriff wants is the money. I stop in an renew my cc permit in two minutes. I've never even met the Sheriff. No letter required for suppressor. This is all fed business. I can't remember all I did, fill out a form, sign, fingerprints, photo, pay $200, go home and forget about it for 9 months. Then one day the shop calls and says your stamp arrived. You can come pick up your suppressor. I need one NOW, for the hogs that are tearing up my farm. I'm sure the distant neighbors don't want to hear all that shooting at night. Or find a hunting buddy that is already stocked up with em. 1917
 

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I wouldn't doubt that Olsoul, but around here all the Sheriff wants is the money. I stop in an renew my cc permit in two minutes. I've never even met the Sheriff. No letter required for suppressor.
Here in Florida the local Sheriff must OK your ownership of a suppressor or other Title II weapon. He must sign a letter so stating. I've not been charged for the letter...(but then again Ken is a friend of mine :) )
 

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I have a Thunder Beast .22 suppressor that took about 7 months for approval. I am now into month 9 waiting for a SilencerCo Omega 9mm suppressor.


I have had an FFL almost 40 years out of my home, no storefront. I am often asked if that helps get a suppressor; sadly, no, it doesn't.


I've been told by several that there is a Bill in Congress to make a suppressor just like a firearm...pass the background check and take it home. I assume the latest mass shootings caused the GOP to back off on pushing such a Bill; now the Democratic House likely would not pass it anyway....although it might get a few Democrat votes from those in vulnerable districts.
 

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That might be the best option. Around here guys are always looking for an opportunity to shoot hogs. If you have to wait 9 months you may not have a farm left.
Aint that the truty. Now I'm seeing nigh vision drones so that you can find them in the dark.....sneak up on em. This isn't going to end money wise. At least drones and scopes I can purchase any old day, no wait. 300 blackout is good for what specifically? 1917
 

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Is it Elmer season already?
 

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300 blackout is good for what specifically?
White tail deer hunting by an experienced hunter who: 1) has already mastered camoflage, scent control, trigger discipline and shot placement -- allowing him/her to get up close and personal for a well-placed shot; 2) has selected a .300 BLK round/load that reliably expands at the velocity it will be traveling; 3) understands the effective lethal ranges of the round/load s/he's using; and 4) is willing and able to track the animal's blood trail (in the same way archery-based hunters often must) if need be.

Good subsonic .300BLK factory hunting rounds that reliably expand at subsonic speeds are spendy, but worthwhile for someone who is not a hand loader. A well-placed heart shot from such a subsonic round that is delivered in under 30 yards will be deadly and virtually silent -- which avoids spooking other nearby deer who don't actually see the kill -- allowing additional opportunities within minutes (especially true during rutting season -- even moreso if the hunter uses rattling techniques, as multiple bucks may come). The animal will bleed profusely with such a shot and should fall in a matter of 1-5 bounds and 10-15 seconds, tops, as the heart stops and the circulatory system shuts down. Neck shots that sever the spinal column are equally if not more effective, as the animal will simply flop over and convulse for 15-20 seconds as communication between the brain and all other bodily functions cease.

Tracking should only be needed if a well-aimed, clean killshot is not achieved. Assuming the hunter remains within the effective lethal range of the round in use, the shot will have delivered more energy to the target than either compound bows or reverse draw crossbows can deliver. (Yes, I've done the math and compared.) In addition, an expanding bullet will have cutting/sawing actions to the animal's internals similar to those of broadheads used when hunting with archery equipment. Thus, there's no risk of unethical harvesting unless the hunter's shooting sucks, the effective ranges of the round in use are ignored, a round that doesn't reliably expand is used, and/or the energies and methodologies associated with archery-based harvests are also considered unethical.

In a nutshell, in the hands of a seasoned hunter, a .300 BLK-based platform provides a light, easily-maneuverable, nearly silent, deadly effective, and humane hunting tool -- one that can be built out as a pistol (using a brace, of course) to allow for use in both pistol season and "gun" season -- in states that actually have a pistol season. (In my state, pistols are usable during 'gun' season -- meaning pistols don't get their own time slot/window -- but I've lived in states where they did.)

When I'm hunting deep wooded areas where I can only see ~30-50 yards or less, I don't lug my 12lb, 20" barreled (plus suppressor) .308 WIN (800 yard effective range) rifle/scope with me, anymore. Sure, it's great for hunting the edges of fields or funnels, but it's a beast to cart around. Instead, I take the 5lb, 10" barreled (plus suppressor) .300 BLK (30 yard effective range) pistol with me, as it's much easier to haul into the stand - not just because of weight, but because of OAL. This matters a lot when I have the weight of the 22lb climbing stand plus my cold weather gear, hydration pack, and other such kit on me -- especially with a long trek into/on hilly terrain. I'm getting old and am not a big dude, by the way, so a 7lb weight difference is huge for me.

I took my biggest white tail ever (9 pointer that yielded 98lbs of meat -- barely missed being a 10 pointer because he'd lost a point) last season with a .300 BLK shot to the heart as described above. The pistol I used was custom built for this express purpose... for all of the reasons noted, above. Within 15 minutes I had another opportunity on an 8 pointer as I was slowly and quietly coming down from my perch, but I let him walk with the hope of him getting bigger and becoming dinner this season. :)

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P.S. I answered since you asked. Back on the original topic, the only things you can really do to avoid going through the process multiple times is buy multiple suppressors at the same time OR buy a single suppressor that has changeable pistons, mounts, and end-caps (so that it can fit/fill different needs).

P.S.S. I, too, think it's frustrating that with a CC permit (meaning prints on file, background check on record, etc.) the federal government doesn't streamline the process by asking if there is an existing state CC issued and, if so, what the number is -- and then cross-referencing it via a check to the state that issued the permit. Golly, that might make sense and make the process cheaper and more sensible -- which is exactly why the Obama administration did NOT do it when the new requirements for NFA purchases using gun trusts were put into play by Obama's executive order.
 
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