ChandlerThe M1 design of the sear housing and disconnector were significantly different than the M2. The M1 housing included a substantial trigger bar guide in addition to other structural elements that mandated the trigger bar be retained in a straight line with only a few millimeter offset to move into the slot on the right side of the barrel.
The M2 design had to allow for greater right to left displacement due to the redesigned disconnector. That greater displacement resulted in a much smaller and less effective trigger bar guide which is nothing more than a plastic square that is formed when the housing is extruded. My trigger bar made no contact with that "guide" until I reworked the cruciform structure by removing the left side disk. That prevented the cruciform from torqueing which forced the trigger bar to shift to the right at the rear of the sear housing and the consequential inward motion of the trigger bar into the path of the recoiling barrel.
The ramp appears fairly benign in appearance. What does the barrel lug look like photo)?Chandler5566 I contacted Walther about it as I’ve never had any jams or mishandled the firearm on any way. I’ve been meticulous about cleaning as well. Here’s a pick of the marks.
Yeah here’s the peening pics, not as bad as some, but still worse than none. I’ve come to terms with the peening because it’s not malfunctioned. However, the marks on the right of the ramp concerns me. Looks worse in person and you can feel it when you run your nail across it. I’m more worried about it being an issue with jamming.The ramp appears fairly benign in appearance. What does the barrel lug look like photo)?
yup, it's why I stopped recommending the PPS M2. the PPQ and the P99 (and P99c) are the only modern Walther guns I can recommend in good conscienceI agree about the trigger bar not making the impact. I’ve only used brass shells too which is weird they would gouge they ramp that way. Thanks for the input
Could be both.It's not the trigger bar hitting the barrel; it's the barrel hitting the trigger bar. In recoil the barrel is loose and unsupported against random movement. Walther doesn't want to spend the money to fix it.
Yes, it is the barrel that's being pushed back into the trigger bar tab. However, the barrel is not moving out of its horizontal alignment but rather the trigger bar that shifts from right to left (see photo). That shift is caused by the lack of adequate trigger bar guide force. The PPS M1 had a better trigger guide which was eliminated on the M2 when Walther redesigned the disconnector system.It's not the trigger bar hitting the barrel; it's the barrel hitting the trigger bar. In recoil the barrel is loose and unsupported against random movement. Walther doesn't want to spend the money to fix it.
Pretty much an embarrassment for Walther . These are not the droids you are looking for.So I heard back from walther after a week and this is what their wonderful service person told me: “That is where the barrel is assembled, are you have any jamming issues? Most PPSs will have a mark similar to that.” Pretty sure he didn’t even look at the issue. I sent another email circling the issue and pressing my concern more. Guess I’ll repost their response in a week or so. I truly believe this was a factory error. No brass cartridge would gouge the metal ramp like that. View attachment 92102
|Your PPS M2 has been evaluated by our Gunsmith and his findings are as follows. The feed ramp on the PPS M2 is different than most other guns. There are actually two metal pieces brazed together into one and then the feed ramp is cut after that process takes place. The horizontal line you can see on very far right side of ramp is where the two pieces meet up. The Gunsmith did hone on the ramp to enhance the cosmetics. However, there’s a fine line of taking away too much metal and if he goes any further it could result in feeding issues. Many of these guns exhibit the exact same appearance and it’s been like that since start of production. It presents no concern from safety, functionality, longevity, or other. I don’t recall ever seeing one of these actually break or otherwise separate. The appearance was as such when it left the factory and upon you taking possession of the gun. I can certainly understand where a person may not notice the line at first and then discover it at some point, maybe during a cleaning session. The Gunsmith test fired your gun on our range to confirm complete functionality and there were no issues found. If you ever encounter any issues as it pertains to functionality and reliability then please don’t hesitate to reach out to us. Your gun has a lifetime warranty against defects in material or workmanship and we’ll take care of any issues that may arise.|