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I love my PPS M2 that I picked up after my PPS M1.

The Glock 43 that I traded it for was a POS.


However, I'm thinking of going to a PPQ, but in .22 LR
for my weekly range sessions, when I'm not shooting my
9mms.
 

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I produce 9mm ammo for 8 cents per round.
CCI MiniMags are running 7 cents or more each.

Why bother with them?

The days of penny 22LR ammo are long gone.
Genuine question: How long does it take you to reload 100 rounds of 9mm? I'm curious about the time cost relative to the money savings.

That's awesome that you can produce 9mm for so cheap. But for those of us buying factory ammo, something like Blazer Brass 9mm is going to be 17+ cents a round (cheapest name brand brass cased ammo I can find). Whereas Federal AutoMatch .22LR is frequently less than 5 cents a round.

But, that's just the economic factor, which the OP didn't even mention as a reason why they were considering a .22LR. A lot of people find .22s a ton of fun to shoot (I know I do), they're great for younger shooters or anyone recoil adverse, they're also great for teaching new shooters. .22s aren't just about saving money on ammo.
 

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If making your own lead bullets and such the cost can be kept low. Personally, I refuse to waste my time with lead and use jacketed for the minor increase in cost to buying lead.

Lead 9mm bullet will be about 6 cents in bulk, I buy Precision Delta JHP for around 9 cents. About 3 cents for primers and around 2 cents of powder for 14 cents all in. Using a Dillon 650 it goes pretty quick but unless you have some free time, it is not going to be reasonable. Cheapest bought bullets, primers and power still put a round of 9mm at 10 cents per.

These days, getting decent 22LR is a lot easier than the past few years but still in the 6 cent per range.

For me, I like 22 for my 15-22 as I can shoot rifle/pistol drills on steel I couldn't do with 5.56 or 6.8 rounds. I rarely use my PPQ22 although if it had a paddle like it should, it would likely see more use.

Reloaders like to talk about making cheap rounds but when you add in the time and all the other aspects like sorting, inspection, tumbling, swaging it rarely makes economical sense unless you work for next to nothing for the common stuff like 5.56 and 9mm. Where it really makes sense is being able to roll your own when the government is in chaos like the last 8 years. Or for expensive rounds that are far less common.

A decent 22 will always be of use and can highlight small things the centerfire recoil can mask. Only you can determine what makes sense for you. Keep in mind the PPQ22 only comes with one mag so for me that meant buying 7 more at just under $30 a pop. As the previous poster stated, the why is important.
 

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I've not reloaded anything for over 15 years and no plans to start again..
so .22 LR is the cheapest for me other than airguns.
 

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I would take a chance with a PPQ 22 if I was looking for another 22.

TTAG did a nice review on it and it seems to be built a lot better then other Walther 22 pistols in that the slide is aluminum instead of pot metal.

Here is the review.

Gun Review: Walther PPQ M2 .22 LR - The Truth About Guns
 

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I produce 9mm ammo for 8 cents per round.
CCI MiniMags are running 7 cents or more each.

Why bother with them?

The days of penny 22LR ammo are long gone.
Because most of us don't reload and don't care too.

.22LR pistols also have much less recoil and noise which can help one with their shooting skills.
 

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I love shooting .22LR pistols and revolvers. They are just plain fun and very cheap to shoot. No time to waste reloading when you can buy .22LR ammo at such low prices. Who doesn't enjoy shooting .22LRs one in a while........
 

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I don't know what finish the barrel has. The slide is hard anodized aluminum.

Looking at them side by side, the .22 slide is a darker black and has a little more texture to it.
 

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I have a 5" PPQ M2 with the fiber optic sights, and 3 taylor-tactical kitted magazines that hold 15 rounds of .22lr each. It is fun to shoot, haven't had an issue yet. The pistol is very well made, gun feels solid in hand, not too light like some .22lr pistols. It is a little expensive, but not for the excellent quality. By the way, the slide on mine is machined billet aluminum.
 

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I have a 5" PPQ M2 with the fiber optic sights, and 3 taylor-tactical kitted magazines that hold 15 rounds of .22lr each. It is fun to shoot, haven't had an issue yet. The pistol is very well made, gun feels solid in hand, not too light like some .22lr pistols. It is a little expensive, but not for the excellent quality. By the way, the slide on mine is machined billet aluminum.
How much have you gotten to test those modded magazines? I'm thinking about modding all of mine with the taylor-tactical kits, but the last thing I want to do is introduce feeding issues.
 

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Slide mounted optic 22lr

When you put a slide mounted optic on the PPQ 22 are they reliable adding the weight to the slide? What mount are you using?
 

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I have noticed no impact at all on reliability, even with subsonic ammo. The mount and sight weigh hardly anything. I got the mount from Sight Mount Home. They don't make one for the PPQ 22 only the regular PPQ but I got it to work, I definitely had to drill and tap for the front screw as the piece for the dovetail is made for the regular PPQ not the 22 and doesn't really fit in there good.
 

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First post here, but just wanted to add something to this discussion. I also recently mounted a Vortex Venom to my 5" PPQ 22LR because I really liked everything about it except the rear sight. I used a dovetail mount from EGW for an M&P 9mm. The dovetail is shaped the same, but the M&P is wider. There is about an 1/8" of overhang on each side of the dovetail. Works great though. Should be three pics attached, 2 show the 22 with my Q5.
 

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