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The issue with the PPQ Match in IPSC is the lightness of the trigger. It falls to under 5lbs with just a little use. If the trigger pull falls below 5lbs the gun would be deemed illegal for IPSC Production, a division that requires the first shot to be pulled with a =>5lb trigger pull.

Howard if the barrel was ported the gun would be illegal for all IDPA /Divisions. Porting aka Slide Lightening the slide is legal if done by the manufacturer.

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Since the rule changes for IPSC Production and the amendment to allow striker fired pistols in Production with 3lb triggers or greater my observation regarding the 5lb limit isnow moot.
 

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Thinking of getting a PPQ M1 is it allowed in the Production class in USPSA. Didn’t see it in the allowed guns rules. Is the paddle mag release not allowed?


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Thinking of getting a PPQ M1 is it allowed in the Production class in USPSA. Didn’t see it in the allowed guns rules. Is the paddle mag release not allowed?
It's on the Production gun list - go here https://uspsa.org/productionlist and type "Walther" in the box.

The fact that the M2 is listed separately means that just "PPQ" means M1. Re: paddle mag release, it's 100% legal; the PPQ, P99/P99c, and PPS M1 all have paddle mag releases and are all on the Production list. (Several of them have incorrect weights listed, but given that the weight "allowance" for Production got bumped from 2 ounces up to 4 recently, that's not really a problem anymore.)
 

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IPSC for 2019 and going forward has amended their Production rules to allow striker fired pistols to compete with sub 5lb triggers. This is a major change and should make the striker fired guns competitive against the DA/SA CZ's and Tanfoglios that dominate the sport up until now.

This year I am using my PPQ's in Optic and SSP Divisions of IDPA and in Production Optics and Production in IPSC.

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Thanks. The M2, I have been told (http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=194420), is not legal for Production. It's not listed on the Production list but is on the IPSC and IDPA lists.

I'd really like to shoot mine in Production as well and have sent a question to Walther to see if it's been approved. I'll call USPSA as well.

I don't think it would be an issue at my local club match but a larger match maybe and as a beginner in the sport, I'd rather not lose time and money on a DQ for a rules violation.
There are no IDPA pistol lists. If the gun is not on IPSC Production List it is not legal. If it is, it is. Google is your friend.

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There are no IDPA pistol lists. If the gun is not on IPSC Production List it is not legal. If it is, it is. Google is your friend.



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Bob, see post #12 above (Google was my friend). It’s been 5 years.


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Here is the IPSC List as of June/19 for Walther pistols:

"P1, PPS, P5, P38, P88, P99, P99Q, P99QA, P99C, P99DAO, P99AS

PPQ, PPQ-Navy, P99D-RAD, PPX, PPQ M2, PPQ M2 Navy SD, PPQ M2 Q4 TAC, PPQ Q5 Match, PPQ Q5 Match Champion, Creed.
PPQ Q5 Match SF (Steel Frame), PPQ Q5 Match SF (Steel Frame) Champion (without detachable magwell).

Also approved: compact versions of all above models

Also approved: variants with original Walther barrels which are longer than standard provided the barrel length does not exceed 127mm, and provided all other aspects of these variants fully comply with all other Production Division rules."

IDPA does not issue pistol compliant lists for their sport. It relies on the rules set out for each Division. Meet the requirements you are good to go.

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My PPQ m2 5” is my only competition pistol. I’ve used it for USPSA; steel challenge; idpa. Zero malfunctions. In fact I beat several more experienced shooters with it the first time I shot steel challenge.

It’s a better gun than my skill level and I’ll stick with it until that changes if ever.
 

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Use Of Walther PPQ For IDPA And USPSA Meets

As I have repeatedly expressed in other threads within this forum, I have used both my Walther PPQ-M2 (5" barrel) and my wife's CZ75 SP-01 (4.6" barrel) for both IDPA and USPSA meets. I have not changed my gun sights, but I did replace the spring guide rod with a steel rod manufactured by BT Guide Rods especially designed for the 5' barrel using the Walther spring. I prefer, hands down, my PPQ. All the "controls" (i.e., slide lever and magazine button) are easily reachable by my fingers holding the firearm; and I cannot say that about the CZ which requires the fingers of my left hand -- I am right handed -- to access same "controls." While the CZ is heavier, thereby eliminating muzzle flip and shot recoil, the use of a steel guide rod significantly (in my humble opinion) reduces same for my PPQ. I also seem to shoot better with the longer barrel gun. I also checked now and have found that the PPQ with 5" barrel is on the approved "Production" list; and you can shoot the PPQ with 5" barrel as either Stock Service or Enhanced Service.
 

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As I have repeatedly expressed in other threads within this forum, I have used both my Walther PPQ-M2 (5" barrel) and my wife's CZ75 SP-01 (4.6" barrel) for both IDPA and USPSA meets. I have not changed my gun sights, but I did replace the spring guide rod with a steel rod manufactured by BT Guide Rods especially designed for the 5' barrel using the Walther spring. I prefer, hands down, my PPQ. All the "controls" (i.e., slide lever and magazine button) are easily reachable by my fingers holding the firearm; and I cannot say that about the CZ which requires the fingers of my left hand -- I am right handed -- to access same "controls." While the CZ is heavier, thereby eliminating muzzle flip and shot recoil, the use of a steel guide rod significantly (in my humble opinion) reduces same for my PPQ. I also seem to shoot better with the longer barrel gun. I also checked now and have found that the PPQ with 5" barrel is on the approved "Production" list; and you can also shoot the PPQ with 5" barrel in IDPA as either Stock Service or Enhanced Service Divisions.
Note the underlined additions to your statement. IDPA does not have Handgun lists.

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Reply to Robertbank

Robertbank is absolutely correct. IDPA does not identify by list those handguns approved for use. Instead the IDPA outlines by general rule promulgation the dimensions and specifications of approved guns; and obviously my reference to availability of use in SSP or EHP divisions are per the rules of the organization. I was only opining that the PPQ-M2 with 5" barrel may be used in both IDPA and USPSA events. :)
 
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