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went to a gunshow today and the guy who had the PP Super in 9X18 still had it for $539 +tax and transfer. I bought other pistols from him—always nice and decent prices so I stopped and talked.

Later he quoted me 425 with box, papers and 4 mags all in perfect condition. Almost perfect finish—two scratches on the right side of the slide and an abrasion on the upper part of the grip on that side.

Serial is 137XX, Interarms import with only a tiny import mark on the left side of the frame “ Interarms Alex, VA”and a “76” stamped on the barrel shroud with the other proofmarks; my other one is a .380 with the Interarms starburst logo on the slide below the port and an IA on the barrel with a serial of 1011XX.

Any leads on 9X18 police ammo???
 

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Yes I did B92.  Got a line on the ammo also from a WTB post and from a friend who loves the PP Super.

Thaks for the encouraging words.
I have religated the .380 to Safe Queen status and so am really excited about this one.

Lately I have run across more deals that I have available funds.  Looks like I may have to look through the CZs and dispose of a couple.

As a sidenote I have seen a number of differences between the two specimens I have  (grips, placement/design of the decocker among other points).  I will have to take some pics and show them here.  I have never seen anything about the changes and iterations of this pistol--I thought all were "identical"; but having and "early" and a "late" model and looking at the differences may be the high point of this purchase.

Most interesting is the difference in datestamps. I wonder if anyone could share their sreial/datestamp info.

Love this hobby...
 

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Hello my Friend,

For DISCUSSION sake ( not for you J, but for anyone who may search out this topic and then take it as gospel...)

There are a number of pistols that have more than one cartridge possibility: the .22 short, long, long rifle; 38 spec and .357 magnum, etc.

It would seem, dependent upon variations in sizing of the casings, bullet seating, etc (with bullet diameter as an non-issue with the .355 size consistent between the 9X17 and 9X18 Ultra) that there may be some .380 ammo that would seat in a 9X18 U chamber.

Does anyone have a micrometer/guage, some .380 and 9X18 U ammo, time and patience to do some comparisons?

What would be the fallout from using the .380 in the 9X18 U pistols? Casing size is the same diameter and pressures are less--would it erode the chamber/bore area? Does this happen in .357 pistols shooting .38 special (or any other similar .44 or other combo)?
 

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BTW, my pistol has an obliteration stamp (cirlce with spikes) over the police acceptance stamp on the right side of the frame. The only think I can make out appears to the the front claws of a lion/cat, facing left. anyone know what Police this signifies?
 

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Itereresting. Looks like the sizes are closer than I thought although the diameter differences of the cases may be problematic if the pressure would cause the case to crack.

Yes, Jehzsa is the friend I was referring to in the post. He has been my Mentor through the learnings I have undertaken on the Walthers and other pistols. We also have an interesting pursuit in the ASAI One-Pro, a wonderful Swiss machine in .45.

thanks you have given much in this pursuit. Looks like we have lots in common--SIGS 220, 225, 229, H&K P7, but alas, I have no Berettas. You will have to school me on that family.

Later, My heart just slowed from watching my boys beat the guys from the west...
 

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Just ordered Dynamit/Nobel 9mm Ultra.  50 round boxes for $8.75 1000 rounds for $165.

I'm golden now!!!
 

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Some thoughts:

It appears, from the dimensions of the cartridges, that in a manner similar to the .38/377 magnum and .44 combos that the sizes of the high powered cartridges are slightly greater to prevent the 9X18 Ultra from being fired in the .380 chamber (or .38 in the ,357), but nothing precludes the reverse.

the dimension (length 0.7mm) will not prevent extraction (I tried it dry in the pistol) and the increase in width would not be so great as to cause case splitting.

IF someon attempts this then it would be important to collect cases abd measure and examine them carefully and possibly have a metalurgist also examine them.
 
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