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Does anyone have a PP Super 9X18? Earl's in Massachusetts has them advertised.

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Any info, opinions would be appreciated. What about price, is it in the same range as a German PPK? I'm considering this or a P5.

Thanks in advance,
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The PP Super 9X18 is indeed a rare gun, it's ammo is difficult to find, and replacement parts almost impossible. I would choose a P5 or a P5C, both are excellent guns and a pleasure to shoot!
 

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I think there may be a few old threads on those and a few being sold in the past on this sites for sale section. I see a few on the auction sites from time to time. Earl's is probaly outrageous on those as he is on everthing else. I think they were never realy popular and the ammo was hard to get or expensive. If you want a shooter maybe check for used ones. I don't know why a p5 was suggested but since it was I will comment that I like mine a lot and it is on the unusual/rare but reasonable side if that is what you are looking for.
 

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Hello Benny---funny you should mention a PP super 9x18. I just inherited one from a gentleman who lost most of his gun collection in Katrina, and was totally disgusted with the condition of the few that he pulled out of the muck---so he was going to pitch them--one being the PP. I have been on another sight trying to find info on this gun to disassemble it and clean it. So I have just finished reconditioning it but have not fired it and cannot comment on how user friendly it is. If you need info on how to tear it down, thats about all I can help with. Brian
 

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Brian, I hope everything works out well with the PP Super. When I first saw a picture of one, I thought it was one of the best looking pistols I'd ever seen. But folks say the ammo is hard to obtain and Earl at Earl's Repair said they are really collector guns, and they are a little spendy; if I remember correctly it was quite a bit more than $1500. That's too much for me; guess a picture of one on my desk top will have to do.

Best of luck with it, I hope it serves you well.
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Guys, if you're looking for 9x18, you might be able to find what you need at Ammoman. He's a decent guy, and located here in New Jersey. Lots of variety, rare stuff, and decent prices. Check out his website at www.ammoman.com.
 

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FWIW, the 9x18 Ultra(Police) cartridge is my favorite. Which explains the 9x18 Us that I own,
Walther PP Super
Benelli B82
Sig P230
Mauser HSc(on its way).

Geco late 70s issue cartridges can be obtained at SOG for about $8.00/50. Fiocchi usually sells for $19.95/50 at different outfits. Hirtenberger is impossible to find commercially now in the US. Those are the three(3) sole manufacturers of 9x18U ammo.

BTW, only six pistols originally chambered for that cartridge. Missing from my list is a Tanfoglio ST-30 and a 1935-1936 Walther PP pistol, the one that started it all. Still looking for them. I have located Tanfoglios in Italy, but no NIB.

The Walther PP Super is a sweet shooter. Very comfortable recoil, very accurate, very reliable. Parts can be obtained in Germany easily. All parts. If buying/looking for parts for them in the US, Earl's has them.

And the darn thing looks very cool. No-nonsense cool. And still very popular in Europe. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg148-e.htm
 

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Thanks for all the info, guys. Maybe all is not lost after all. It sure is a great looking gun imho; I'd really like to add one to my collection.

Thanks again,
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95% Walther PP Super 9x18s can be had for $500.00 or less. They regularly appear for sale at the auction houses and Gunsamerica. Check them all out. Condition varies. Prices too.

You will not be disappointed.
 

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Does anyone have a PP Super 9X18? Earl's in Massachusetts has them advertised.

PP Super

Any info, opinions would be appreciated. What about price, is it in the same range as a German PPK? I'm considering this or a P5.

Thanks in advance,
Benny
the 9x18 is a superb piece, of particular note is that it is designed to be kept loaded...safely. the hammer and pin never line up until you pull the trigger, there is a decocking mech that works great, but mainly, its a great piece to leave loaded safely --ammo pops up at fiocci, you have to grab a case or two and you never have to worry, you can get boxes of 50 for about 20.00
 

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How do they work? Are they blowback like the smaller Walthers, or do they use some breech locking mechanism?
I handled exactly one, years ago at a gunshop I haunt. It certainly had Walther DNA, but looked so different from its smaller sisters.
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The Super is a DA, blowback pistol. This might help a bit, Moon:

Modern Firearms - Walther PP Super

The PP Super is a nice firearm; every Walther collector should own at least one. Trouble is, you don't see them offered for sale too often -- and the odd caliber doesn't help. Even more scarce are the Super models that were produced in .380 ACP. A pair of them were offered on the Simpson's Ltd. site a few years ago; they didn't last long.
 

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What would it take to convert a PP Super 9x18 to .380 ACP? My local favorite gun shop still has one for sale.
 

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What would it take to convert a PP Super 9x18 to .380 ACP? My local favorite gun shop still has one for sale.
Probably just better to shoot .380s through the 9x18. Or install a "jacket" to convert it like they do in Europe, mainly Italy.

PP Super .380s are slimmer than 9x18s. Have no idea if in addition to the barrel you might need to replace the slide too and even then I don't know if it would be a fit also. However, 9x18 mags should work fine with .380.
 

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So, you're saying a PP Super chambered in 9x18 will work fine using .380 ACP without any modification? I may just snatch that sucker up, then. Thanks.
 

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Just use brass-cased .380.

And polish the ramp. Preferably with emery cloth going in and out. In and out exactly as the cartridge travels.

Enjoy.
 

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95% Walther PP Super 9x18s can be had for $500.00 or less. They regularly appear for sale at the auction houses and Gunsamerica. Check them all out. Condition varies. Prices too.

You will not be disappointed.
There are a number of PP Supers for sale right now on Gunsamerica....
 

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PP Super Ammo

If you can reload or new load your own ammo, the ammo for the 9X18mm Ultra is not scarce. Graf & Sons have the brass, Magnus Casting has a 100gr truncated bullet that works just beautifully. 3.6grs of W231 and a 100gr Magnus gives you a 1000fps bullet that works just fine. The gun likes the truncated bullet via the narrow nose of the magazine.

I have around 500 factory loads and 300 new loads I produced plus about 1500 new brass casings. I think I am set up for a while. If Fiocchi ever produces the ammo they have been promising I probably buy a few boxes of it to have some extra factory loads for ccw carry.

The ammo I produce is 1000fps and 228lbs at the muzzle. It could be loaded hotter but I just stay there for a while. The cast bullets I use are 22bhn so there isn't any leading of the barrels as long as you stay at l000fps or lower.

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The PP Super is a superb pistol, obviously I'm not the first to say it in this thread. I own one 9x18 and last year took it to the range several times and shot .380 through it, never a hiccup. I also have two in 9x17, I just lucked up on a shooter a few months ago and I have a new one.
When I went to puchase the some extra mags from Earl, he told me the magazines for the pistols were even the exact same mag, just stamped differently. And they seem to be. :eek:
 
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