As I have already mentioned here in another post, I was impressed by the books by Jan Balcar. I have just bought two of his new ones called "Samonabijeci pistole nemeckych ozbrojenych sil" in Czech. Not only I have found a nice serials table for PP/PPK there (not based on the others rotating on internet, I think), but also a lot of information, drawings, etc. I know, that there won't be much people able to read Czech here, but I suppose it will be translated in english too as his earlier one was - The P.38 Pistol Spreewerk Production: Jan Balcar,Ron Clarin: 9781604583649: Amazon.com: Books If so, don't miss the books. For all of you non-Czech readers I took a picture of the table, you find it in attachement Bal_S.
As has been mentioned previously, Ron Clarin (Ron from Minnesota) is a member here, and Jan Balcar has stopped by from time to the time. The Spreewerk book is a terrific resource for P.38 owners/collectors. We'll have to do some checking to see if this new work will be released in an English edition. Thanks for posting this, Sycro. It's good information, and the chart should be of interest to all PP/PPK owners.
I'm having a hard time finding info for my serial number! It starts 379XXX but has NO "P" after it! The serial numbers match on both the slide and frame.
Does anyone know anything about serial numbers on a Walther PP 7.65 WITHOUT a "P" at the end??
It also has the "Eagle over N" stamp in two places, one with a 68 to its right and what looks like an antler or elk horn next to that (on the ejection port)
and one more stamp that has been stamped over with an "XXX" near the grip too. I don't know if those other stamps might help...
I'd advise starting a new thread and including a couple of detailed photos of your pistol. That will allow the experts to get a look at it and let you know aht you have.
As I have already mentioned here in another post, I was impressed by the books by Jan Balcar. I have just bought two of his new ones called "Samonabijeci pistole nemeckych ozbrojenych sil" in Czech. Not only I have found a nice serials table for PP/PPK there (not based on the others rotating on internet, I think), but also a lot of information, drawings, etc. I know, that there won't be much people able to read Czech here, but I suppose it will be translated in english too as his earlier one was - The P.38 Pistol Spreewerk Production: Jan Balcar,Ron Clarin: 9781604583649: Amazon.com: Books If so, don't miss the books. For all of you non-Czech readers I took a picture of the table, you find it in attachement Bal_S.
You are going to have to cough up a whole lot more information than that to get any idea from anyone here, joe. I'd suggest that you start a new thread in this section and provide some sharp photos that give us clear idea about what you own, with a description of the pistol's overall condition and whether it's mechanically sound. You also might want to read the What Do I Have Here/What's It Worth? thread in the meantime.
New to forum. Help on serial numbers would be greatly appreciated. I have a PP 7.65 serial# on slide 390xxxp with ac under it. Serial # on frame is different. 392xxxp. No other markings that I can see on frame or slide.
A Walther PP in .32 ACP with a serial number starting with 390... was manufactured sometime during 1945, heading toward the end of the war. The ac designation was the Walther plant's secret Nazi code designation, designed to keep the Allies from knowing where firearms were being manufactured. Someone along the way swapped out the frame and slide for whatever reason. We'd need good photos to tell you more.
If it's an "ac" code PP that's mismatched and not proofed it was probably assembled after the factory was captured by the US Army. The parts were not always fitted properly so these PP's should be checked by a gunsmith before firing. Here's some more information from the Pancho Gun Collection.
Bob's correct. These are often called cigarette guns ... put together by locals still hanging around the plant after the Russians left who worked for cigarettes.
Thanks for the help on dating the manufacture of my PP s/n 138xxxP. This pistol was distributed to Brazilian navy officers around 1952, I am not sure what happened between 1938/39 and 1952, so I still have a bit of a mystery to deal with. The PP and PPK were popular pistols in the Brazilian armed forces in the 60's. I will see if the Czech books are still available on Amazon. I had no idea there would be such a good group of Walther buffs.
I’ve begun a correspondence with a Czech online bookseller to try to get a set. They’re advertised at a quite reasonable price; hopefully I won’t have to sell a kidney to pay for the shipping.
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