PDP JHP ammo

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JMK9753

Discussion Starter · 8 d ago

I've seen several suggestions for JHP. Are there any less expensive names that are reliable? I'd say full proof, but I've tried S&B 115 grain and had two fails to lock back after last round in same mag. Once w/ 18 rds, once w/ 17. I Haven't been out again and only bought 2 boxes. Fiocchi, ammo Inc, PMC. Basically, anything that comes in 50 rd boxes for around 40 cpr or less. Thanks
P.S. I'll probably get posts saying, "Don't be cheap, it's your life." But why sell this stuff if the expensive stuff is the only reliable stuff out there?

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gairman

· #2 · 8 d ago

I doubt the failure to lock open was ammo related. Dunno.

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JMK9753

Discussion Starter · #3 · 8 d ago

@gairman I did not post the fact that I changed the mag springs to stronger ones. I don't know if you've been following the FTF and FTLBS threads.

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gairman

· #4 · 8 d ago

JMK9753 said:
@gairman I did not post the fact that I changed the mag springs to stronger ones. I don't know if you've been following the FTF and FTLBS threads.

No sorry, didn't see that info. the failure to lock back issue in my experience was usually mag related. But who knows? Maybe the S&B has a couple sketchy rounds. I've been shooting S&B a ton and have not had a single failure. (PDP Compact 4")

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Hammer67

· #5 · 8 d ago

Federal Punch, 20rds/$20 👍

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William Walton

· #6 · 8 d ago

Another poster mentioned Punch and I concur. You can even find it for $15 a box. I found some a about a year ago for $11 a box! But price aside, it has Federal's reliable round nose design and the same ballistics as the HST line. In fact, it's basically the same bullet, just not built for barrier penetration. HST is king, but I'm also big fan of the prince.
I have a PPS M2 and have found XTP's, V-Crowns, and HydraShoks shoot great too. Just the best values in Punch, HydraShoks, and V-Crowns.
YMMV

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Angry Hippo

· #7 · 8 d ago

The more modern rounds expand more reliably...but people have been getting stopped by gunshots for a long, loooong time.

In the 40 cent per round category for self defense ammo... you're probably going to be stuck with buying bulk of either low qualtiy or the older generation hollowpoints.

If you can only buy a few boxes your options are going to be more limited and you'll be paying WAY MORE than 40 cents per round. I +1 that Federal Punch is reasonably priced. I also like Sig V-Crown for a (usually) more budget friendly ammo.

If you can drop 400-450~ on stocking up I'd consider this federal Hi-Shok. It's 40 cents a round with free shipping. (no assocation). Not the best ammo in terms of performance but it was at one time nearly state of the art. It's the only thing I'd shoot that comes anywhere close to 40 cents a round for self defense.

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If you're willing to spend 60-70 cents a round your options open up significantly and you can probably get bulk HST Tactical (IMO the gold standard) for that price.

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yohan72

· #8 · 3 d ago

Lucky Gunner has some decent ballistic testing results that may give you an idea into reliability and performance. I would check out their website. Maybe you can find something in your price range that still offers decent performance. I like Federal HST as well. I found some 50 round boxes for $35 a few years ago. But it really is true in that the cheaper stuff doesn't always perform the best.

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spin40

· #9 · 3 d ago (Edited)

I use 124gr JHP ammo when testing for reliability and SD carry candidates, because most modern 9mm pistols are engineered for that round.

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Jimmo952

· #10 · 3 d ago

JMK9753 said:
I've seen several suggestions for JHP. Are there any less expensive names that are reliable? I'd say full proof, but I've tried S&B 115 grain and had two fails to lock back after last round in same mag. Once w/ 18 rds, once w/ 17. I Haven't been out again and only bought 2 boxes. Fiocchi, ammo Inc, PMC. Basically, anything that comes in 50 rd boxes for around 40 cpr or less. Thanks
P.S. I'll probably get posts saying, "Don't be cheap, it's your life." But why sell this stuff if the expensive stuff is the only reliable stuff out there?

In most PDPs, any conventional JHP is going to be reliable.

Given all you've posted about the different problems you've encountered though, it's tough to make a recommendation. It's impossible to know what is going to work reliably in your seemingly problematic pistol.

You best course of action might be to return the gun to Walther and have them make it right.

Once that is done, the world is your oyster as far as choosing hollowpoints for your gun.

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William Walton

· #11 · 3 d ago

Jimmo952 said:
In most PDPs, any conventional JHP is going to be reliable.

Given all you've posted about the different problems you've encountered though, it's tough to make a recommendation. It's impossible to know what is going to work reliably in your seemingly problematic pistol.

You best course of action might be to return the gun to Walther and have them make it right.

Once that is done, the world is your oyster as far as choosing hollowpoints for your gun.

I have a PPS M2, not a PDP. The only bullets mine fusses with are Hornady Critical Defense. It's a go to for some, soft shooting and accurate. But I don't trust it and it sure ain't cheap. Really like their XTP's, though.

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