[aklim69]

If he got shot, unless it is a ricochet, one would think the muzzle faces upwards while the gun falls downwards so wouldn't it have to fall UPWARDS to snag on something to pull the trigger?

 

[aklim69]

It is interesting to me to learn that there is a possibility that there is another safety feature on the P99 that I didn't know about. Hopefully someone can chime in and state where it is, what it does, and how it works.

If it is true, then this would just make an unintentional discharge from a drop that much more unlikely.

Besides the 2 drop and 1 firing pin, if you want to consider the decocker a "safety feature", I suppose we can categorize it in the same class as the "New York Trigger".

 

[aklim69]

I'd like to see this information. Please provide the documents that list all three safeties and what they do.

With all due respect, I'd like to hear from the OP, and I'd like for my questions to be answered.

IDK. I was just reading the brochure.

 

[aklim69]

The PPQ has a trigger safety so carrying a P99cAS in SA mode is not the same as carrying a PPQ.

Fair enough

 

[aklim69]

There is also a firing pin block safety, which prevents the striker from reaching the primer on the chambered cartridge in case a drop causes the striker to slip off of the sear.

This is if the pistol was cocked. If the pistol was decocked, it would be even more unlikely.

According to Walther, there are 2 drop safties and 1 firing pin block safety making a grand total of 3.

Hence my question. What does it matter? Would there be more force required to force the striker onto the percussion cap decocked or cocked? IDK. Is there extra force only on the trigger side when decocked and does it translate to the firing pin? Again, IDK

 

[aklim69]

Both the drop safety on the trigger, as well as the firing pin block, should have prevented a chambered round from going off. ...

Supposedly they list 2, not 1, 2 drop safties.

What does it matter? The safties should work either way or there is something defective?

If it wasn't defective and he tried that, we could have a totally different issue. If he didn't (and I wasn't there so IDK) there could be a defective gun.

 

[aklim69]

I think this is BS. An AS should always be carried decocked ...

Says who? The company that tells you to keep your gun and ammo separate? Or the one that tells you to NOT use reloads? Or how about only use Walther stuff? Those are CYA statements.

So no carry on the PPQ then? The list goes on but you get the point.

Fair enough.

 

[aklim69]

Adding to that, if we ASSUME that Walther is truthful about 2 drop safeties and 1 firing pin block and he has not done anything to the gun that could cause it (if so, all bets are off), odds are that the 2 safeties are not working and it would be possible but improbable. I'd send it back to Walther for a good inspection with a description of the problem. I have dropped my P99C AS and I do not ever decock it and it didn't go off.

 

[aklim69]

Yeah, like you didn't try to catch it. Try again.

If he didn't make a grab for it and it went off, according to Walther it has 2 drop safties and 1 firing pin block. Kinda hard to imagine that it did go off normally unless something has been modified or is defective.