I don't have a PDP but believe the P99 is the best 9mm polymer pistol made.

 

I was going to ask this same question. The P99 and the PDP are more or less the same price when you can find one of either. I don’t plan to run a red dot and I owned a P99 .40 like you. Wondering which I should purchase as a “one gun“ to stick with forever.

 

Aside from the DA/SA operation of the P99 and PDPs ability to use a red dot, I’d still say the P99 is a better duty option. The SA is more crisp on the P99, and you can add the red dot to the P99 using the PDP or PPQ slide anyway.

 

I went ahead and bought a P99 for 639. I would regret never being able to obtain one later. It is a superb pistol. I foolishly traded my .40 P99 with Meprolight night sights for a PPQ and regretted it ever since.

 

Does anyone one have both the P99 and the PDP? What are the pros and cons of each?

The PDP is just a revamped PPQ (Q4 Tactical). There have been several years worth of threads discussing the P99 vs PPQ debate.

I am trying to decide if I should stick with a P99 9mm or go to a PDP.

If you're happy and confident with the P99 then I'd keep it. I'm sure the PDP is a fine pistol but I don't have any plans to replace my P99 or PPQ with one.

 

Pdp hands down red dot is definitely the way

 

The trigger systems are completely different. IMO the P99AS wins simply because the trigger is so much more versatile. You can carry it in DA, SA, or even AS mode. Being able to have one in the chamber yet still having the trigger be in DA is awesome to me.

I also hate the little bladed trigger safety in the PPQs/PDPs but that's because I have thin fingers that tend to ride too high and lock the whole thing up. This was happening to me during live fire with a PPQ SC, if you pull it too high it completely locks the trigger... This makes no sense to me.... in a life or death situation I'm not going to be thinking "Well I better make sure my trigger finger is placed perfectly in the middle when I pull" It would probably be the opposite where my hands may be shaking and my finger would be all over the place. (On the P99 it is impossible to lock up the trigger mid pull)

One thing I will say is the PPQ/PDP clearly have better ergonomics and grip texture. The p99's pattern is a bit outdated.

 

The trigger systems are completely different. IMO the P99AS wins simply because the trigger is so much more versatile. You can carry it in DA, SA, or even AS mode. Being able to have one in the chamber yet still having the trigger be in DA is awesome to me.

I also hate the little bladed trigger safety in the PPQs/PDPs but that's because I have thin fingers that tend to ride too high and lock the whole thing up. This was happening to me during live fire with a PPQ SC, if you pull it too high it completely locks the trigger... This makes no sense to me.... in a life or death situation I'm not going to be thinking "Well I better make sure my trigger finger is placed perfectly in the middle when I pull" It would probably be the opposite where my hands may be shaking and my finger would be all over the place. (On the P99 it is impossible to lock up the trigger mid pull)

One thing I will say is the PPQ/PDP clearly have better ergonomics and grip texture. The p99's pattern is a bit outdated.

P99 with a Talon Grip FTW
Also the PPS M1 trigger blade would give me a blood blister on my trigger finger.

 

I have a P99 in .40 cal. I do not have one in 9mm. The only gun I have in 9mm is my service issued one which I do not carry home.
Since I will now have a supply of 9mm ammo, I'm trying to decide if I should get one in a P99 since I am familiar with it in .40 cal or if I should go the PDP route. I haven't shot either in 9mm and they are both very scarce at the local gun shops and firing ranges.

 

These are both excellent pistols....I guess one of the questions to ask is do you have a preference in triggers...DA/SA, allowing you to carry de-cocked or, are you okay with SA only, or does it really make any difference to you. Another question would be, is your current P99 40 a Gen 1 or the later version with a standard picatinny rail....if its the later version, then another P99 in 9mm would allow you to use the same holster.

There's no bad choice here. I think it really boils down to triggers and (for me) holsters. I've got quite a few holsters...many Safariland, and these will usually accommodate a PPQ or P99. I'm thinkin' a PDP will not fit my current stock of holsters. Don't know if the holster thing is an issue for you or not.

 

I have a 1st Gen P99. The holster I have for it is a Vedder that is for a Gen 2 or 3 but the 1st Gen fits as well with no problems. As far as what trigger that I'm used to I carried the H&K P2000 which is technically a a double action trigger, but it seemed more like a SA. I am interested in the 3rd Gen P99 , but with the prices of the P99 and the PDP being so close it is still a toss up.
I collect Emerson knives and whenever a new "Hot" model comes out they sell out immediately. Usually what happens is after all the hoopla has died down you can pickup that Hot model for a lot better price than initial msrp when people decide that really wasn't the knife for them. The way things are going politically with guns I wonder if I should get the PDP while I can, before they become even harder to find. I think in the future I will probably end up owning both, but for now I can only afford one new one.
The research continues.
Thank you all for your input.

 

Does anyone one have both the P99 and the PDP? What are the pros and cons of each? Any insights would be appreciated.

I work as a LEO and the Agency I work for used a .40 S&W cal ammo and firearm. Late last year they transitioned to 9mm ammo and firearm. I have a P99. 40 that I carry to and from work. Now that we are transitioning to 9 mm I am trying to decide if I should stick with a P99 9mm or go to a PDP.

I just recently got my PDP. I like it a lot. It shoots accurately if your doing your part. Absolutely lov1pp]0pe the grip texture; your not going to lose it from sweaty hands. It will accommodate pretty much any wml , and if your department allows it, mounting a red dot is an added bonus.

It takes about a week to get your chosen adapter plate but the first one is free. I hope this helps.

 

dont own the PDP... gotta P99AS and QA in 9. ~25 years of service and reliability. the PDP is what a year or two old... no way in hell id trust my life with a weapon thats been in production for less than a few years! then theres the mag paddles vs button retraining thing... but im sure you know all this. get the P99, then wait a few and test drive the PDP in the meantime. stay safe!

 

Let me bump this to see if anyones opinion changed in two months of PDP ownerwhip

 

I was done with P99s as soon as the PPQ came out. I'm NOT a DA/SA shooter. I want my first shot to be my best, and I could never do that with the heavy DA pull. The PDP is a nice upgrade to the PPQ, I prefer the full size frame.

 

You know you can pull the P99's slide back like a 1/4 inch to put it in SA right?

I get wanting the first shot to be short and clean, but the P99 offers that, it's single action is actually shorter/crisper than the PPQ's, by a good margin.

 

One of the things I prefer about the P99 trigger is how the drop safety works and the fact that the trigger shoe HAS NO CENTER BLADE. Unlike the PPQ and many others that use a 'center trigger blade', the P99 trigger shoe performs the same 'drop safety' function by pivoting on the trigger bar as opposed to the PPQ's center trigger shoe safety/blade needing to be completely depressed. On the back side of the trigger shoe, they're doing the same thing.....pivoting the 'nub' UP to clear the frame, enabling the trigger/trigger bar to continue rearward. On the PPQ, if you don't have your finger squarely across the trigger shoe when you start to pull, its possible to move the trigger bar rearward while NOT fully depressing the center trigger blade....then the trigger comes to a 'hard' stop. By contrast, trigger finger placement on the P99 is simply not a problem, as the entire trigger shoe is going to 'pivot', which means you can place your finger on the side/edge of the trigger shoe and pull and its gonna work.

When I'm at the range, that little center trigger blade starts to become a little uncomfortable. By contrast, the P99 trigger shoe is nice and smooth, and the curvature of the shoe fits my little girly/soft trigger-finger perfectly.

I agree with Jim....the market has spoken....most Americans seem to prefer 'buttons', hence the emergence of the PPQ M2. Some time after the M2 came out, I was talking to one of the Walther guys from Fort Smith....he said the PPQ M2 was outselling the PPQ M1 by 10 to 1. Yep, Uhmerikans love buttons.

As for DA/SA, Jim said it....the market has spoken.

As for PDP vs PPQ trigger, the market has spoken and Walther responded. The squeaky wheel got the grease....the PDP trigger, pre-travel/take-up is smoother and once you're at the wall, they reduced the creep......did they shorten the 'reset'.....I really can't tell on that one....I'm not even sure how to set up a measuring device to actually measure that.

P99 AS vs PDP.....they're both great pistols....pick the one you prefer, as its all about preferences. I have some of each. 😁

 

Agreed completely about the little center blade! it is probably the main reason I still prefer the P99 over the PPQ or PDP!

Let alone being uncomfortable, the fact that it has the potential to lock the trigger mid pull just from my finger being too high is scary as a self defense weapon!

 

I agree with IOF about the center trigger blade being uncomfortable while shooting at the range. I thought it was just me. I too prefer the trigger on the P99.

I know the market has spoken as far as Walther is concerned but I can't help but wonder how a P99 with the long paddle release or botton, PDP grip and more aggressive serrations and an optics cut out would sell.
I know I would buy one with the long paddle release. I've never used RFS before but as I get older I believe that optics are in store for me.

For me the main advantage of the P99 is that you get a second strike on the bullet if you pull the trigger and it doesn't go bang the 1st time.
Before anyone says anything, yes I am familiar and trained with Immediate Action Drills. Believe me our Fire Arms Instructors drilled in to us the "Tap Rack and Bang" mantra!!!
I might be dating myself but I believe the new terminology is "Tap, Rack and Reassess"

 

I agree with IOF about the center trigger blade being uncomfortable while shooting at the range. I thought it was just me. I too prefer the trigger on the P99.

I know the market has spoken as far as Walther is concerned but I can't help but wonder how a P99 with the long paddle release or botton, PDP grip and more aggressive serrations and an optics cut out would sell.
I know I would buy one with the long paddle release. I've never used RFS before but as I get older I believe that optics are in store for me.

For me the main advantage of the P99 is that you get a second strike on the bullet if you pull the trigger and it doesn't go bang the 1st time.
Before anyone says anything, yes I am familiar and trained with Immediate Action Drills. Believe me our Fire Arms Instructors drilled in to us the "Tap Rack and Bang" mantra!!!
I might be dating myself but I believe the new terminology is "Tap, Rack and Reassess"

Tap, rack, and whatever takes time. 2nd pull of the trigger is faster and more instinctive. There are so many advantages to the P99AS that its hard to keep track of them. Decocker, cocked striker indicator that moves if the trigger is being pulled, DA/SA, second strike capability, etc. These are why I refer to the PPQ (and its variants) and the PDP as "stripped down P99s", because all you get with the new models is PERHAPS a better trigger for SA, more weight if you go Steel, racier looks, and improved grip texturing. Sorry, even is you count all of those as somehow relevant (looks? really?) they are not enough to warrant giving up so much IMHO. YMMV.

 

I wonder how the P99 would sell withe the upgrades that I suggested, plus offering it in a Single Action Only offering like the Sig Sauer P226/229?
The only reason for this suggestion to to give the market what it wants.

For the reasons the reasons PPS1980 listed above, I would only buy the DA/SA model.

 

 

Both Zoey B and extremist bring up good points and arguments for their line of reasoning.
I myself, before my career as a LEO was not really into guns. I bought the P99 because it was the gun that James Bond carried. Silly I know, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only to buy it for this reason. Keep in mind this was back in 97 or 98. In 99 I started my career in Law Enforcement and we were issued Barretta 92 in .40 S&W that were Double action. So this is what I was used to. Around 2007-8 the Agency transitioned to a H&K P2000 40 also a Double action. Late last year we transitioned again this time to a Glock 47. So I went from 2 hammer fired Double action Pistols to a striker fired Pistol. Maybe if I had started out with a striker fired pistol then transitioned to a Double action pistol I wouldn't be comfortable with the DA/SA feature. To each his or her own.

Like Dennis Miller says, Kiss members all released their own solo albums so that you could pick your favorite!