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Hi all,

Didn't visit the site for a while - family, holydays, work and so on - and I'm happy to see some following on my post about problems with P5.

These last weeks, I had the opportunity to test and compare my P5 (1981) with a "Beretta 92 FS Compact L" (1996) - I'm quite fond of the Walther locking block system used on both.

First of all, the Beretta is longer (198 mm vs 180), heavier (900 g. vs 780) and wider (38 mm vs 34). Height is similar (134 mm) and the barrel is longer (109 mm vs 90) - Oh yes, I'm one of these maniacs who measure their guns!

Ergonomy of the Walther is much superior for me: it feels lower on the hand, the multi-function lever is a gift, sights are larger and easier to catch with the "i" pattern. The trigger travel is shorter in DA and the reset to SA shorter too.

All these qualities translate in faster fire at short and middle ranges (to 15 m.). Accuracy is on pair. At wider distances,(25 m. and 50 m.), the Beretta Compact has a slight advantage with his longer sight radius (hell, I didn't measure it!)

A few more things: if the finish is on pair externally, the P5 is perfect internally where the 92 has some deep marks, just like the machinist hadn't regulated his lathe. Very surprising as Beretta claims using the most modern CCM tools! My P5 is not perfect either: it still FTFs frequently when I close the slide with the multi-function lever. And the serrated trigger is a real pain on long sessions. I plan to polish it.

Hope it might interest you.

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Shame on you, Laurent, that you didn't measure the sight radius! That's unforgivable! Further, more than that, it's unforgettable! ;)

Hello, my friend. Good to see you're back and that everything is tres bien.

Nice shooter, you've got there. I will readily admit that I'm a sucker for pistols whose muzzles extend a bit beyond the slide. Gives it a certain flair that's missing on the others. Btw, have you checked out the new Hirtenberger EMB cartridge? I'd give an arm and part of a leg, to have it here in Florida, both in 9mm and .45acp. Hopefully. it will get here sooner rather than later.

Btw, a feed ramp polish might do good on your P5. Did you switch to x-power rec springs?
Please remember to measure the sight radius.???

Wiedersehen.
 

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Hi Jehzsa,

I'm fond, too, of pistols whose muzzle extend beyond the slide. It departs from the universal Browning style and its a smart way to get one inch more on the barrel without sacrificing much in concealibility.

About the Hirtenberg "Expansive Mono Block", I never see it in Switzerland. Expansive ammos are banned here in Switzerland since 2002. My choice would be Lapua CEPP, as it is the only high performance ammo allowed by the FedPol. But handlers are reluctant to order it, even if it is on the FedPol's official list.

A polishing on the feed ramp of my P5 and x-power springs might solve the problem, as the slide returns in battery very slowly when FTFs occur. Thank you for the advice.

You will have the sight radius tomorrow  


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Hello Laurent,

http://www.globalarms.net/topics/hp_emb/hp_emb0.htm

Available just across the border in Austria. After you check the specs, I'm certain you'll agree with me that so much fun doesn't deserve to be spoiled in Switzerland. Specs are truly impressive, especially ME.

Btw, the only x-power rec springs generally available here for the P5 only make it 16# total. Hopefully, you can do better in your beautiful homeland.
 

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Hi Jehzsa,

Impressive indeed, and worth a try if I could...


Sight radius are 149 mm (Beretta 92 Compact) vs 135 mm (P5), in inches 5,8 vs 5,3

I have somewhere a Wolff spring set for P38/P5. I will drag in my parts bin to see if these are x-powers...

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