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I bought my new P22Q several months ago. It worked perfectly for around 100 rounds. As long as I was using Winchester 40grain 1435FPS it worked great but with lower velocity rounds 1380 or 12xx, it tended to not kick the slide back hard enough to load next round. Again it was perfect with the 1435s. I then cleaned and put away for a month. I went shooting today using my usual 1435s and it started not always kicking out the spent shell or always loading the new shell. The guy at the range said I shouldn't be using Winchester but something else. Unfortunately I have about 600 rounds in the safe. Someone else suggested that had I oiled the barrel and slide just a little before I shot it would have been fine. It had been about 6 weeks since I last shot and cleaned gun. Any suggestions or other ammo to use?


thanks (a proud newbe to Walther)
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I've never tried any Winchester .22's but it's hard to beat good ole CCI.
What you are describing is short stroking. The slide simply isn't being blown far enough rearward for the breech face to get behind the top round in the magazine. The slide will then close without chambering a new round or if the spent case did not eject it might simply be shoved back into the chamber. Properly lubricate the pistol, hold it firmly when firing and you must use ammunition that is powerful enough to fully cycle the slide. CCI Mini Mags and Remington Golden Bullets both work fine in this pistol. 1917
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What 1917 said.... while some shoot great right out of the box, my two .22’s from Walther needed some breakin in time as evidenced by multiple wear marks on the frame and slide. I accelerated this process by removing the recoil spring and guide and manually racking the slide several hundreds of times. I have very few issues with either gun now.
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Shell recommendations

So I am trying several of the recommended shells but I got one more question. I see CCI mini mags which are either 40 grain/1235 FSP or 36 grain/1260 FSP or CCI Stingers which are 32 grain/1640 FSP.

Using mostly for target and protection (yes, I know it is only a 22 but a bone problem in my hand limits me to that) and some small varmint hunting.


Which are you folks all recommending? thanks in advance to all that have or will respond
Go with the regular CCI .22 round. The Stingers just use a tad more powder and a lighter bullet but are much more expensive.
Either of the CCI Mini Mags are what you want. The Stingers make a more impressive bang especially in low light situations.
So I am trying several of the recommended shells but I got one more question. I see CCI mini mags which are either 40 grain/1235 FSP or 36 grain/1260 FSP or CCI Stingers which are 32 grain/1640 FSP.

Using mostly for target and protection (yes, I know it is only a 22 but a bone problem in my hand limits me to that) and some small varmint hunting.


Which are you folks all recommending? thanks in advance to all that have or will respond
Don't bother with the stingers (as others have said), as they tend to be for shooting at pests.

The 36 grain CCI Mini-mags are hollow points and the 40 grain are solid projectiles, but I don't notice any difference for range shooting. Both work flawlessly in my 22QD as do Remington Thunderbolts and also CCI/Blazer.

Don't bother with low or standard velocity rounds (below 1200fps seems to be the point at which mine doesn't work well) in the 22QD, as unless you have a really unusual one, they don't like them.

I also recommend three other things to you. Others may disagree, but you never know unless you try them. In order of cost (highest first):

1. Upgrade to the 5 inch "target" barrel. This alone allowed more types of rounds to function in it flawlessly.

2. Don't judge the gun until you have broken it in with at least 500 rounds. Once you get at least that number out of the way, it gets more "tolerant".

3. I lube my gun with more gun oil than most people do. This, as was also suggested to me, putting plenty of oil into the magazines and leaving it there, helps with feeding issue these guns can also have.

BONUS TIP: Try to lube your ammo. SOME round have a surface treatment on them and others don't. You might find that searching in here reveals some interesting info on this.

It took me at least 1,000 rounds through my 22QD and to install the 5" barrel for me to be happy with it. Remember, it's a not very expensive weapon so we should not expect high end performance from it as shipped. If we have to mess with it and play around to get it to perform reasonably reliably and decently, then that's all part of the fun of owning one of these.

By the way, I have a couple of boxes of different ammo that won't work with it in my safe too so you are not alone in this. :) Perhaps they are waiting for my next 22LR gun purchase? :D

Good luck.
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I think if I just had to use a P22 for self defense I would try some of the CCI Velocitors. They have the most energy, 40 gr and will probably penetrate deeper. I would certainly fire 200 to 300 to make sure they performed 100% in my pistol first. Having said that....I've never seen any for sale and have never fired one. That light weight, fragmenting stuff isn't what you want.....oh yeah.....be sure to have a BUG handy in 9mm or .45 acp... 1917

http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/22.html

If you check the energy graph the 40 gr Velocitor tops everything, 2" barrel to 18".
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