This is usually a magazine problem. What magazines do you have? If there are the ones with the short stagger slot or no tagger slot. That is your problem. Also, what ammo are you using? The last round does eject slightly differently from the others due to the follower being under the spent case rather than a full round but........magazine problem. M1911My p-22 stovepipes the last round out of the magazine on EVERY firing cycle..... anybody else having this problem? If so, is there a simple (or difficult) solution to this problem?
Nope, the extractor should have nothing to do with it. The stock extractors on P22s old style or new don't hold the spent case on the face of the beech block nor is the face recessed in a manner that allows the rim to be caught and held in a secure location. This is all part of the problems P22s had with the large gap between the extractor tip and the breech face which allows the case to just float around.If it occurs only on the 10th round, it's not an ammo problem.
I'm with Dave: it's likely the extractor, but not necessarily damaged; maybe just needs to be dismantled and cleaned. What I suspect is that the 10th round is not being supported during extraction by a cartridge in the magazine beneath it, so it is entirely dependent upon the extractor to hold it in place until it hits the ejector.
Okay, I am willing to be educated: what is it, precisely, about the current magazine that cures a last-round failure to eject? Higher protrusion of the follower?Nope, the extractor should have nothing to do with it. The stock extractors on P22s old style or new don't hold the spent case on the face of the beech block nor is the face recessed in a manner that allows the rim to be caught and held in a secure location. This is all part of the problems P22s had with the large gap between the extractor tip and the breech face which allows the case to just float around.
Hmmmm????? If it were just the Federals I might write this problem off to rounds that are just a little to weak to fully cycle the slide but if this were it you would be having this problem at times other than the last round. As someone mentioned earlier a spent case is blown out of the chamber with enough energy to press the slide rearward with enough force to cock the hammer and the rim of the case to still bounce off of the ejector with enough energy to throw it out there 10' or more.The p-22 in question is new, about 200 rounds fired thus far, and the stovepipe problem just began about 50 rounds ago. The ejector appears to be intact, and the extractor is clean and functions fine. I keep all of my guns clean and lubricated, and I make sure not to overlubricate (I guess all that time in the Army DID teach me something!). The magazine is a stock Walther mag that came with the gun, The spare mag is the same type, and has the same problem. I use CCI mini-mags and Federal copper high velocity ammo, both mags have the same problem with both types of ammo. I am going to take a closer look inside the gun and will let you know. Thanks-bjb
OK, I got off track by reading responses and not reading your original post carefully enough. I would say this is entirely a magazine problem. Did you buy the pistol new? What year is it? The new pistols, beginning in '09 came with only 1 magazine. The A series long slot mags work perfect. The short slot A mags will: Cause jams, cause stovepipes with live rounds, allow a live round to jump out of the pistol while the next round is chambered. I have five and none of them work properly. S&W will replace them if you have that magazine and are having problems. But if you have a new pistol you should have B suffix mags.My p-22 stovepipes the last round out of the magazine on EVERY firing cycle..... anybody else having this problem? If so, is there a simple (or difficult) solution to this problem?
Actually, from what I have been reading over the past 8 years, there is no limit to the warranty. If you have a problem S&W will fix it. Here is a pictorial of the magazine history. The only two bad magazine models are the originals that had no stagger slot and the short stagger slot model. Walther was trying to fix another issue when they designed and produced the short slot mags. I was asked not to tell what they were trying to do but it didn't work and neither did the mags. They had a short life and were replaced with the B mags.Will S&W replace the mag even if the gun is out of warranty? Is it the mag or follower that is the problem on the older mags?
You really can't file enough material off of the hammer to stop it from dragging on the breech block and have the safety bar still cock the hammer. If you file too much material off the face of the hammer it will not be pressed far enough rearward for the sear to catch and the hammer will follow the slide back forward and be caught on the safety notch. To restore cocking you will have to file material off of the full cock notch on the hammer. This is pretty serious business when you do sear/notch work and you need to know what you are doing so that the cocked hammer is securely caught and can't slip off the sear.I'll check it out.
Last time out I had some trouble with mine. I get the occasional stove pipe, but this time the gun was not feeding rounds. It seems that the slide was not coming back far enough to catch the next round. I'm not thinking this is a mag problem. I think that it had too much oil on the rails and was dirty. I cleaned it today and smoothed off the hammer so it didn't drag on the slide very much. I've been wanting to do this for a while. When I cycle the slide manually, it goes back smooth and easy until it gets to the hammer. Then it becomes much harder to move. You can really tell the difference. I filed it until it barely drags. I will see if this helps the problem.