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I'm in the market for a small .22 pistol.
I'm down to two candidates, the Ruger RS22 or the Walther p22.
I need to disclose that recently, I bought a CCP M2 and it has been terribly disappointing with a lot of FDE problems. It is now back at Ft. Smith for repairs/evaluation. For that, I'm a little weary about the Walther brand that I grew up thinking was the best of the best (I've had Walthers since I was 20 yrs old: PP, P38, PK380, P99, PPK).
I need your opinion on how good or problematic the P22 is, because in reality I would like to trust and buy Walther again.
Thanks.
 

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I'm in the market for a small .22 pistol.
I'm down to two candidates, the Ruger RS22 or the Walther p22.
I need to disclose that recently, I bought a CCP M2 and it has been terribly disappointing with a lot of FDE problems. It is now back at Ft. Smith for repairs/evaluation. For that, I'm a little weary about the Walther brand that I grew up thinking was the best of the best (I've had Walthers since I was 20 yrs old: PP, P38, PK380, P99, PPK).
I need your opinion on how good or problematic the P22 is, because in reality I would like to trust and buy Walther again.
Thanks.
Those are all good pistols and with exception of the PK380 are not Umarex pistols. The Ruger and the P22 have both had issues. I don't think you can go wrong with either these days. Both are plinkers. All P22s come with a threaded barrel should you decide to add one later. If you look around the P22s can be found at a good deal lower price. The P22 has a lifetime warranty and Ruger usually does a good job of taking care of customers as well. Get one of each... 1917
 

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I bought a P22Q a few years back to use after sending my PPK/S .22 back to Walther for the second time. I enjoyed shooting the P22 but had issues with the rear sights being loose. My son was looking for a .22 plinker so I sold it to him. After a few months he ended up with a frequently reported cracked slide. Walther to send him a new one once he gets off his butt and sends them the cracked one. Hopefully the new one will have firmer sights. I like the feel of the PPK/S .22 better than the P22.
 

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If you go Ruger, maybe a MK4 or newer, they have the five out now right?? Little more on the price tag, but reliability unmatched, I barely ever have a FTF, but once they go bang, they ALWAYS eject spent brass. I have a bull barrel on my MK2 and a scope. I love hitting targets a little further than pistol normal range. I am thinking, though, about getting the 22/45 grip frame for it. The Nambu inspired grip is nice for pointability, but I am too partial to the 1911 grip. Even put an aftermarket 1911 grip on my AR.
 

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Thanks everybody for your input. SR22 will be.
Meanwhile, on the standard size .22s, I have a Buckmark with a TS barrel, TandemCross trigger and Halo pull and a SeeAll sight. Not a tack driver but a pin driver. This is another pistol that almost never fails to do its job. Maybe a stove pipe 1:1000 shots and eats any brand, though I mostly shoot the Standard Velocity CCI and the Winchester 333 boxes from Walmart.
 

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I'm in the market for a small .22 pistol.
I'm down to two candidates, the Ruger RS22 or the Walther p22.
I need to disclose that recently, I bought a CCP M2 and it has been terribly disappointing with a lot of FDE problems. It is now back at Ft. Smith for repairs/evaluation. For that, I'm a little weary about the Walther brand that I grew up thinking was the best of the best (I've had Walthers since I was 20 yrs old: PP, P38, PK380, P99, PPK).
I need your opinion on how good or problematic the P22 is, because in reality I would like to trust and buy Walther again.
Thanks.
I have a lot of fun with a nickel PPKS .22, but beware that it is finicky with ammo. I am in love with my Walther PPQ 5” in .22LR. It has NEVER failed to eat ANYTHING after about 4,000 rounds, is easy to clean, it gobbles up even the cheap big box ammo, is incredibly accurate, and is a great trainer for my other PPQs in 9mm and .45ACP. The PPQ’s accuracy outperforms a Ruger Target, at least in my hands, and is ridiculously a lot of fun. The 5” comes with a front fiber optic. Consider it strongly. I know of no one who owns one to be dissatisfied, and would invite any and all comments to mine. Good luck with your decision.
 

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Man, the Walther CCP M2 is my favorite 9mm automatic by far. It's very reliable and it is the msot accurate over the counter 9mm I am aware of at anywhere near it's price.

I also have the p22. I really bought it for my grandson to use when he's here. It's a nice enough gun but if iI were to buy a 22 for my own I'd buy the Taurus 22 semi auto. It is rigorously reliable, holds 16 rounds, has great ergonomics and it's very, very accurate. In my opinion and others I've seen review it it's the no-brainer purchase in a semi auto 22.

My biggest complaint about the Walther is it's too small with an excessively small handgrip and it doesn't hold much ammo. It's perfect for your grandson or a beginning shooter but I an't see any reason for an adult to own it.

Same situation with the Ruger.
 

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Man, the Walther CCP M2 is my favorite 9mm automatic by far. It's very reliable and it is the msot accurate over the counter 9mm I am aware of at anywhere near it's price.

I also have the p22. I really bought it for my grandson to use when he's here. It's a nice enough gun but if iI were to buy a 22 for my own I'd buy the Taurus 22 semi auto. It is rigorously reliable, holds 16 rounds, has great ergonomics and it's very, very accurate. In my opinion and others I've seen review it it's the no-brainer purchase in a semi auto 22.

My biggest complaint about the Walther is it's too small with an excessively small handgrip and it doesn't hold much ammo. It's perfect for your grandson or a beginning shooter but I an't see any reason for an adult to own it.

Same situation with the Ruger.
I have a Taurus TX22 and a PPQ 22, and prefer the PPQ.

The P22 is small. The PPQ is standard size. Not sure why the P22 seems to be more popular. It feels like a toy to me. The Ruger SR22 is too small and has an odd feel to me as well.
 

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I agree. Both the Walther and the ruger feel like toys. Neither feels balanced and both need a larger grip.

The PPQ is a nice weapon but I think it is significantly more expensive than the P22.

I'd like to hear why you would choose the PPQ over the TX22. To me the TX22 is the first 22 semi auto that anyone has really gotten right. The PPQ is a nice gun, no doubt about that, but I prefer the Taurus. My only complaint is that it seems a bit large for a 22 semi auto but that's also true of the Walther PPQ 22.

Either way if I owned either one of them I would be happy. I like Walther's anyway but Taurus has built some really impressive pistols in the past few years.
 

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I have both, and if forced to choose between them would pick the SR22....ONLY because my P22 is so finicky with ammo. With the right ammo, my P22 is amazingly accurate, but it sure doesn't like the cheap stuff.

Having said that, my preference over BOTH of those is the PPQ M2 22LR. If I had to, I'd swap both my P22 and SR22 for just the PPQ M2 22LR.
 

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I'm in the market for a small .22 pistol.
I'm down to two candidates, the Ruger RS22 or the Walther p22.
I need to disclose that recently, I bought a CCP M2 and it has been terribly disappointing with a lot of FDE problems. It is now back at Ft. Smith for repairs/evaluation. For that, I'm a little weary about the Walther brand that I grew up thinking was the best of the best (I've had Walthers since I was 20 yrs old: PP, P38, PK380, P99, PPK).
I need your opinion on how good or problematic the P22 is, because in reality I would like to trust and buy Walther again.
Thanks.
What I have always been told is that all 22 semi autos have chambering and ejection. The reason for this is the round itself doesn't want to stack well in the magazine. Taurus is the first one I know of who has been able to fix that problem and add more rounds to the magazine.

I haven't had any problems with my P22 but i sue quality ammunition. the P22 goes back a few more years than some of the other models and it has been fixed and upgraded over the years. At this point I think they've got it all sorted out.

I don't think they've had as many problems with the PPQ 22 over it's life but at this point I believe they are about equal in reliability.
 

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Ruger SR22. 100% positive. Have experience with both. I love Walther. I own Walther. However, their new production firearms outside of the P99/PPQ/PPX series do not hold the Walther standard. Even with the P99/PPQ/PPX which I believe hold Walther quality, related firearms including the HK SFP9/VP9 series perform much better. All said from experience.
 

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I'm in the market for a small .22 pistol.
I'm down to two candidates, the Ruger RS22 or the Walther p22.
I need to disclose that recently, I bought a CCP M2 and it has been terribly disappointing with a lot of FDE problems. It is now back at Ft. Smith for repairs/evaluation. For that, I'm a little weary about the Walther brand that I grew up thinking was the best of the best (I've had Walthers since I was 20 yrs old: PP, P38, PK380, P99, PPK).
I need your opinion on how good or problematic the P22 is, because in reality I would like to trust and buy Walther again.
Thanks.
I’m a real fan of the Taurus TX22 very accurate 16 +1 and a bargain at $249
 

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I agree. Both the Walther and the ruger feel like toys. Neither feels balanced and both need a larger grip.

The PPQ is a nice weapon but I think it is significantly more expensive than the P22.

I'd like to hear why you would choose the PPQ over the TX22. To me the TX22 is the first 22 semi auto that anyone has really gotten right. The PPQ is a nice gun, no doubt about that, but I prefer the Taurus. My only complaint is that it seems a bit large for a 22 semi auto but that's also true of the Walther PPQ 22.

Either way if I owned either one of them I would be happy. I like Walther's anyway but Taurus has built some really impressive pistols in the past few years.
Both are accurate enough and function consistently, with the TX having a slight edge in that department as they get dirty. That's with SV ammo. Probably about the same if you were shooting HV.

Most of it comes down to personal preference - the feel. The PPQ just feels better to me. It feels higher quality in most areas. Both have terrible plastic rear sights. I like the PPQ grip better, it's slightly trimmer than the TX which feels a bit fat to me. Triggers are different, but both are decent. The PPQ wins in the magazine department, being steel. The TX mag is plastic and feels cheap.

TXs have some issues related to barrel quality, and I replaced the barrel on mine. The recoil spring will start to chew-up a part of the slide if you don't smooth the sharp edge.

From what I've seen, it's about a 50/50 split as to which people like best when shooting both back-to-back.

As far as cost goes, a PPQ22 is running about $290-ish and a P22 is about $250-ish right now. The PPQ is absolutely worth the extra $40 or whatever unless you want the smaller pistol. The TX can be had for much less at times with rebates. I bought my TX early, and paid about the same as the PPQ.
 

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I can't speak to the P22, but I have an SR22 with over 8000 rounds through it...no issues at all. The SR22 is a tremendous handgun and tough to beat IMO. Extremely accurate and reliable.
Many people have had good experiences with the SR22. Ruger got that one right.
 

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I suggest a PP, PPK, or PPK/S all of which are available in .22LR chambering. It is small, skinny, and widely available, S&W issued a recall on all 22LR licensed by their manufacture for a small problem. I have a stainless in that version from S&W but it is with a higher serial # thus a recall on mine was not required. Great sidearm for CCW. And LOVE the extended beaver tail from S&W.
 

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I'm in the market for a small .22 pistol.
I'm down to two candidates, the Ruger RS22 or the Walther p22.
I need to disclose that recently, I bought a CCP M2 and it has been terribly disappointing with a lot of FDE problems. It is now back at Ft. Smith for repairs/evaluation. For that, I'm a little weary about the Walther brand that I grew up thinking was the best of the best (I've had Walthers since I was 20 yrs old: PP, P38, PK380, P99, PPK).
I need your opinion on how good or problematic the P22 is, because in reality I would like to trust and buy Walther again.
Thanks.
Although it looks like you already decided on the SR22 (I can't speak to that pistol), I really like the little P22Q. I bought it for my wife and grandkids to learn on, but I like shooting it too. It is fun! Like many, it was a little fussy about ammo initially and I was trying several brands for the first couple hundred rounds. No problems after that with High Speed CCI or Remington Gold Bullets. I primarily use the RGB Bulk rounds now and bought a couple extra mags. I also clean it after every use. I will load up 4-5 mags and it goes bang every time and ejects the spent brass with nary a hiccup. It is a blast to shoot and fun for the wife and grandkids too!
 
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