will a P22Q magazine work in a P22 CA?
thanksYes TTownpops...the only difference between a CA P22 and all the other P22s is the CA model had the barrel nut red locktited on and there are no wrench lands. CA doesn't like the easy method of adding a suppressor to the pistol so Walther worked out a deal where the nut is locked on with glue from the factory. The only other difference is that the pistol comes with the long recoil spring and not the captive one. Welcome to the forum. 1917
1917,Yes TTownpops...the only difference between a CA P22 and all the other P22s is the CA model had the barrel nut red locktited on and there are no wrench lands. CA doesn't like the easy method of adding a suppressor to the pistol so Walther worked out a deal where the nut is locked on with glue from the factory. The only other difference is that the pistol comes with the long recoil spring and not the captive one. Welcome to the forum. 1917
1917,As far as I have ever known...there are only two sources for P22 mags. Walther and KeepShooting. The KeepShooting mags look exactly like Walther mags.....not sure who makes them and plenty of people purchased them and reported they worked fine. The only problem I know of with P22 mags is the very first ones did not have stagger slots and did not feed properly. Then in 2006 or so the short slot mags showed up and didn't feed well either. I don't know of any reason either of the mags won't work in a P22. CA, rest of the World....same pistol with exception of the locktited barrel nut.
Pictured is an original mag with no stagger slot. These were soon replaced. In addition there were complaints of unintended mag releases during the early years as well. Most of us thought this was probably shooter error, new shooters not familiar with the levers, were accidentally hitting the levers. Regardless, Walther changed the way the expanded tabs were stamped by stamping them in a manner where the tabs stuck out further. 1917
Yes, I can see the difference. Attached are two photos of the magazine I sent back. It has 2006 on the OEM box and clearly has the short stagger slots. And, it did not work. Rescue08
Photo of development and small changes to the mags. Not shown is the original with no stagger slots. The 2006 or 2007 mag in the center with the short stagger slots did not function properly either and was soon replaced. Those 1" stagger slots are necessary in order to allow the rims to slide off of one another which allows the top rounds to sit at the proper angle under the feed ramps. Magazines without these slots cause the rimmed rounds to stack in a circle which causes the top rounds to sit nose down....=feeding issues. If you look closely there are subtle changes to the stampings and you can see that the catch tabs has been punched out further from the mag body. 1917
Will do. Thanks, Rescue08The main thing a round needs to do in the P22 is produce enough blowback pressure to cycle the slide. You would think...easy...I'll just look at the velocity on the box. That doesn't really work as those velocities are out of rifle barrels...not 3.4" or 5" pistol barrels. Short barrels do not allow any .22 brand of ammo to achieve maximum velocity from what I know. However..there are some brands that get off the starting block very fast and produce an adequate amount of blowback energy. CCI Mini Mags are plenty powerful enough and are fairly clean. Remington Golden Bullets produce an equal if not greater recoil impulse but aren't as clean or reliable.....but they work fine for bulk. Fast ammo like CCI Velocitors, copper, etc will all cycle a P22 but the cost begins to go up and I don't see much reason to purchase more expensive ammo unless it is target grade. Target ammo is sometimes not all that fast nor does it produce enough blowback energy. The five inch barrel is more forgiving than the 3.4". I'd say the biggest problem people have had over the years with ammo is purchasing bulk stuff that simply isn't powerful enough to cycle the slide. A simple change of ammo can solve a lot of issues.....yes, CCI is good. All things equal cost wise and I buy nothing but it....but, costs aren't equal. I've fired 10's of thousands of Federal bulk. Try a box of Rem Golden bullets and see what you think of that. 1917