[Lostnthewoods]

What's with the box in this PPQ M3 video? Are they available for sale? The gun geek in my wants I'll one.

https://youtu.be/wfILN9eS33c

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[PPS1980]

PPQ M3 - "two versions of the popular PPQ pistol, named M3 and P3, especially for police and security (not available for the civilian market)"

 

[Balor]

What's with the box in this PPQ M3 video? Are they available for sale? The gun geek in my wants I'll one.

https://youtu.be/wfILN9eS33c

The PPQ M3/P3 (and the reason the supplied case has metal clasps and is stackable) is explained in post #5 of the following thread:

http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/ppq/93490-what-s-deal-m3.html

Balor

 

[Clarkston]

So, basically a PPQ M2 ( surprised it has the button) with a P99AS trigger?

Very interesting if I'd like to expand my Walther collection.

 

[imaoldfart]

How bout a ******* special. PPQ M2 frame, P99 slide and complete trigger assembly.

 

[Balor]

So, basically a PPQ M2 ( surprised it has the button) with a P99AS trigger?

No it isn't!!! Come out to the front of the class, put this hat on and go and stand in the corner!

Stay behind after school and write this out 100 times:

1) The Trigger. The M3/P3 has a partially pre-cocked trigger mechanism, in principle similar to the Glock. The trigger blade does not have a middle tongue (split-trigger) and, as such, is similar to the P99 trigger blade.
The trigger pull-force is 32 Newton (3.2kg/7.2 lbs), as opposed to 25 Newton
(2.5kg/5.6 lbs) in the original PPQ. The TR stipulates a minimum pull-force
of 30 Newton (3.0kg/6.7 lbs).

But actually, we're off-topic here, as the OP expressed interest in the carrying case only - not the contents of the case.

Balor

 

[23738]

More like a P99 QA trigger, in regard to the M3/P3.

If it decocks, I'll take one, or two, or...

Why not, Walther?

(That way I can stick the trigger and slide onto my Classic frame..)

 

[Balor]

More like a P99 QA trigger, in regard to the M3/P3.

You'll have to stay behind after school as well!

P99 QA: Trigger Pull-Force. 38N; Travel: 8mm
P99 Q: Pull-Force: 32N; Travel: 13mm
PPQ P3/M3: Pull-Force: 32N; Travel: 13mm

Ergo: The PPQ P3/M3 is “more like” a P99 Q, not a P99 QA.

If it decocks, I'll take one, or two, or...

It does de-cock (read the quoted post) - but good luck on finding one (or a P99 Q, for that matter)!

Why not, Walther?

(That way I can stick the trigger and slide onto my Classic frame..)

You wouldn't have to - the PPQ P3 HAS the classic frame. I agree with your “Why not, Walther?”

Balor

 

[23738]

D'oh. When I posted it was really late (for me).

And I've read more than once the thread here with the article about the P99Q AND the other stuff, too.

I knew better, I blame it on tiredness and lack of coffee.

Still, I want one, especially with the paddle release, though the button guns are grudgingly ok.

Ya likes what ya likes.

 

[Balor]

D'oh. When I posted it was really late (for me).

And I've read more than once the thread here with the article about the P99Q AND the other stuff, too.

I knew better, I blame it on tiredness and lack of coffee.

Still, I want one, especially with the paddle release, though the button guns are grudgingly ok.

Ya likes what ya likes.

I don't understand why Walther refuse to bring the P99 Q and the PPQ M3/P3 to the civilian marketplace. Perhaps someone with a good insight into the firearms industry could offer a logical explanation.

They (Walther) must have been bitterly disappointed in January when they lost the Bayern Police contract (see post #20 of the http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/ppq/93490-what-s-deal-m3.html thread). The PPQ M3/P3 was, effectively, put forward as their new flagship police pistol but not a single police force has (to my knowledge) adopted the model so far. The Taiwan Police ordered the PPQ, but there's no information on whether they took the “normal” PPQ Classic or a version similar to the PPQ P3.

If they're having trouble selling it to the police, why don't they test the waters on the civilian market? Several contributors on this forum have expressed reservations with regard to the PPQ as a carry/home defense pistol - expressly due to the lightness of the trigger. Perhaps the M3/P3, with it's heavier trigger, would be just the ticket. It de-cocks and has re-strike capability as well and you have a choice between button and lever (paddle) magazine release (M3 = Button; P3 = Paddle).

Balor

 

[23738]

I know I'd sell a kidney, testicle, or one of my Mustangs for a couple three of the P3 versions.

I've got a good use for a deckable (made unable to fire? hopefully?) version that can be "cocked by a slight slide retraction, like the PPS Classic. Only in a duty sized gun that can use the 17 round mags we have currently (the +2 like the Navy and FE's got).

C'mon Walther, make it so. Make those engineering dollars, errr, Deutschmarks mean something, damn it..

 

[Balor]

C'mon Walther, make it so. Make those engineering dollars, errr, Deutschmarks mean something, damn it..

Deutschmarks?!!! Haven't been in Deutschland for a while, have you?

Balor

 

[socrates007]

Deutschmarks?!!! Haven't been in Deutschland for a while, have you?

Balor

Germany has been using the Euro since 2002

 

[23738]

Never have been to Germany. My grandfather went once. Back in '45.

I really don't know (rather, care a whole lot) what they use

(least I didn't say dollars!)


I will admit to being fascinated with some of the beer. Bier?

Just don't want to drink it room temp. Gotta be cold. If it's nearly slushy, that's fine by me.

Now, Walther, give us the P3, damnit.

 

[Balor]

Now, Walther, give us the P3, damnit.

........not if you insist on paying in Deutschmarks!

 

[23738]

These work, then?

 

[Balor]

These work, then?

..........'fraid not! At the present time, no amount of any currency in the world will help you procure a PPQ P3. Not even if you could “persuade” an obliging police officer to “mislay” his duty P3 (for an appropriate obolus, of course), as no police forces anywhere have been issued with the P3.

Your best bet might be to pester your national distributor with phone calls and e-mails........and hope that lots of others will do the same.

Balor