New to me P99. I was just plain lucky

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fuzzymcnab

Discussion Starter · Feb 28, 2019

So I was in my LGS to look at a S&W revolver they had recently taken in on consignment and while waiting to be helped, I overheard the customer next to me talking to the salesman about the gun he was consigning with them. Turns out it was a P99 he bought new many years ago, and took to the range once. Box, 2 mags, backstraps, everything. I gave mine to my son several years ago and missed it terribly. I asked the dealer how much they would be selling it for, and within a nano second I handed them $450. In California the rarely become available and $450 is a bargain.
The world is right again,
fuzzy

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5Wire

· #2 · Feb 28, 2019 (Edited)

Congratulations. One of the most underappreciated pistols around. I've owned four, once C and three AS. Two more if you count the S&W99 in .45ACP

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fuzzymcnab

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 28, 2019

Talk about under appreciated! I love the P99/45. Bought mine a number of years ago, also like new condition with all the accessories. Sexiest .45 ever. I remember as soon as I got it I called S&W to order mags. The guy on the phone said they had 5 left and did not expect anymore. I bought all 5.
Excuse me while I run to my safe and fondle mine a little.
God bless, fuzzy

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OmegaJB

· #4 · Mar 1, 2019

The P99C is my EDC carry gun and has been so for years. With a grip sleeve if I want a near full size gun and I like the ergonomics better than my FS P99.

Enjoy your new purchase.

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fuzzymcnab

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 1, 2019

Omega,
I Have the S&W 99c, i like that too. Will also buy the Walther version whenever one shows up. All P99's are slim pickins here in Kalifornia. When we buy them, we keep them.
fuzzy

Target99

· #6 · Mar 1, 2019

Really nice deal! Sometimes life is all about timing.

Walternate

· #7 · Mar 8, 2019

Welcome home!

PennyForTheGuy

· #8 · Mar 12, 2019

Wow, great job! I recently got a similar deal on one myself. Just happened to be browsing Turners consignment page the day they put it up. Is yours a gen 1? Post some pics and gloat!

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leadcounsel

· #9 · Apr 5, 2019

I likewise scored a great deal on a Gen 1 P99 QA variant. Excellent condition, 2001, with 10 mags and all original stuff, for only $375 total. I wrote a thread about it...

fuzzymcnab

Discussion Starter · #10 · Apr 5, 2019

Leadcounsel,

Jeepers that is an awesome deal. However, now I am confused. Excuse my lack of knowledge gents, but I picked the gun this afternoon, and it is marked in a way I do not recall. The frame is Walther and the slide says Walther and the box says Walther, but on the right side if the frame is marked Smith and Wesson. I though the later guns that were assembled in the US by S&W had slides that were marked S&W. Thanks in advance for the help.
fuzzy

leadcounsel

· #11 · Apr 6, 2019

fuzzymcnab said:
Leadcounsel,

Jeepers that is an awesome deal. However, now I am confused. Excuse my lack of knowledge gents, but I picked the gun this afternoon, and it is marked in a way I do not recall. The frame is Walther and the slide says Walther and the box says Walther, but on the right side if the frame is marked Smith and Wesson. I though the later guns that were assembled in the US by S&W had slides that were marked S&W. Thanks in advance for the help.
fuzzy

I'm no expert but it's commonly known SW had some partnership with Walther to import or assemble some Walther guns, and also license to copy the P99 and maybe some others. Some Walthers, including my PPS, are roll stamped Smith and Wesson near the front right side.

fuzzymcnab

Discussion Starter · #12 · Apr 6, 2019

Thanks for the input. I pulled out my copy of "Walther pistols" Dieter Marshall (forgot I had one) to try and better identify it. Still reading.

Thanks again,
fuzzy

5Wire

· #13 · Apr 6, 2019

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Here's a "Smith & Wesson 99" in 45 ACP":

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OmegaJB

· #14 · Apr 6, 2019

Prior to Walther building a facility in Fort Smith Arkansas Smith & Wesson was the distributor for them in the US.
The gun was manufactured in Germany by Walther, imported by S&W for sale.

Smith & Wesson also sold a SW99 where Walther made the slides and Smith made the frame. You can tell the difference at a quick glance by the logo in the frame.

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fuzzymcnab

Discussion Starter · #15 · Apr 6, 2019

5wire,
I am familiar with the .45, as I have one. Of course, those are marked S&W on the frame.
Omega, I was also aware of the S&W 99 (I have the compact) where S&W made the frames. I was unaware that S&W imported P99 built completely by Walther, so thanks for that. After digging into Dieter's book, I think mine is a second gen made between 1999 and 2001. Shame on me, I did not even realize that it is a P99AS.
Blessings to y'all
fuzzy

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OmegaJB

· #16 · Apr 6, 2019

Actually I think I was mistaken on the SW99. According to Wikipedia the receiver is made by Walther in Germany (not sure what qualifies as the receiver) and the barrel and slide are made by Smith and Wesson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_&_Wesson_SW99

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djmg412

· #17 · Apr 7, 2019

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Good guns! I too have a SW99c, SW99.45, MR9, & Frankennein (under construction).

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fuzzymcnab

Discussion Starter · #18 · Apr 7, 2019

Omega,
That does sound familiar. All I could remember was that Walther made half and Smith made half. As a side note, the receiver in a P99 is part of the frame.
fuzzy

23738

· #19 · Apr 7, 2019

OmegaJB said:
Actually I think I was mistaken on the SW99. According to Wikipedia the receiver is made by Walther in Germany (not sure what qualifies as the receiver) and the barrel and slide are made by Smith and Wesson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_SW99

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It's not a receiver as we'd know it in something like a sporting rifle (AR), just a misuse by a wikipedia editor...but yes, Walther made the frames, S&W made the slide/barrel assembly.

Also, the SW99 was available in .45, something the P99 has not (yet) been made chambered in for public consumption..

The SW99 and older P99 mags will interchange...pay close attention to the front of the older mags hitting the ramp on newer P99', though...there was a running change..

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