[Jimmo952]

Noooo! I've been holding off on buying a Sig P365 in the hopes that walther would come out with a similar offering. If other manufacturers can make small guns then walther really doesn't have much excuse.

I'm pretty sure Sig makes their gun here as do others.

Others will know this better than I but I think in 1968 a points system was put in place to regulate what small guns could be imported into the USA.

So it sounds like Walther is looking to expand their manufacturing here.

 

[chandler5566]

For now, all I want is a PDP Compact frame (complete) I just like the grippy looking grip, can't wait to get my hands on one to see if it is grippy enough for me. And, since the compact can make use of PPQ M2 mags, that means it should accept ALL my modded mags. Looking forward to some pricing info.

I am certain you will like the grip. Doesn't feel smooth and it is more aggressive without feeling like your hand is being stuck by pins.....a real rubber feel.

 

[ewigeSchlangenkraft]

I have just visited the German website of Carl Walther / Ulm. The PDP is not yet listed there.
Interestingly, you can no longer find the CCP there either.

Maybe my wish for a redesign of the CCP is coming true. : )

 

[ewigeSchlangenkraft]

My takeaways after going through some of the articles and videos:

It's not modular in the sense that the P320 is modular. It's just that you can swap frames and slides between the full size and compact.

Optics mount is definitely an improvement, retains factory iron sights and seems to sit lower than the PPQ. All models are optics ready and take Glock iron sights.

Trigger supposedly even better than the PPQ, and the gun will accept aftermarket options like Overwatch and Walther's Dynamic Performance trigger.

Will use PPQ M2 magazines, (15 round mags too short for the full size model) and also use PPQ barrel, recoil spring assembly, and if I had to guess mag release and magwell also though I haven't seen it confirmed. Edit: Magwell is different according to Cody Osburn.

Overall I like it, but I won't be in a rush to get one. It seems to be an improvement on the PPQ, but not a drastic one.

It's not truly modular in the way the P365 is, i.e. being able to remove the trigger group and swap it into a frame you buy off the shelf. That was the way I was hoping they would go.

 

[ewigeSchlangenkraft]

Maybe my wish for a redesign of the CCP is coming true. : )

Then again, if we look at the way they have done the redesigns in the past, the PPS may be next for an cosmetic upgrade. If they redesign the mag it could be a win-win for those hoping for a P365 competitor.

 

[Redcat94]

Maybe my wish for a redesign of the CCP is coming true. : )

They already did. The CCP M2 was released in 2018. I wish I had bought one when I had the chance.

 

[ZarZ]

I'm pretty sure Sig makes their gun here as do others.

Others will know this better than I but I think in 1968 a points system was put in place to regulate what small guns could be imported into the USA.

So it sounds like Walther is looking to expand their manufacturing here.

It’s 922r compliance that you are referring to. Another issue for Walther will be all the added pistol definitions being added by the current administration and his ATF.

 

[Mig1]

Here is the actual ATF points form: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/factoring-criteria-weapons-atf-form-4590/download

 

[Jimmo952]

Here is the actual ATF points form: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/factoring-criteria-weapons-atf-form-4590/download

Thanks Mig1. I vaguely knew of the points system but never saw the form.

It is enlightening.

Looking at the form we can see why it's advantageous to build small concealment guns stateside rather than overseas.

 

[camosamo]

Where can we buy 18 round mags now?

 

[bayern]

It looks line something out of Keltec or some other cheap pisto mker.

 

[PPS1980]

Disappointed. Ah well. Too many pistols already anyway.......

 

[P99AS40lover]

Is that grip texture an actual overlay of material or is it molded into the plastic? I wonder the longevity of such a grip.

IM interested in the PDP but I am shocked at the Budsgunshop.com price of over 800 bucks for the compact. PASS

 

[Jimmo952]

The more I look at the PDP, the more I think they they could have just called it the PPQ 2.0.

It really is an evolved PPQ. Nothing wrong with that...making a good gun a little better.

 

[ZarZ]

The more I look at the PDP, the more I think they they could have just called it the PPQ 2.0.

It really is an evolved PPQ. Nothing wrong with that...making a good gun a little better.

PPQ should have been called P99 2.0 then. The PPQ is just a commercial version of the P99 RAD. Then the PDP would be P99 3.0

 

[Mig1]

PPQ should have been called P99 2.0 then. The PPQ is just a commercial version of the P99 RAD. Then the PDP would be P99 3.0

I recently made a similar comment to somebody who says the Glock gen 5 had a long record and the PDP was unproven.

There were a couple generations of P99 before the PPQ and two generations of that. So I'd call the PDP a gen 5 or 6 P99


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[Jimmo952]

I recently made a similar comment to somebody who says the Glock gen 5 had a long record and the PDP was unproven.

There were a couple generations of P99 before the PPQ and two generations of that. So I'd call the PDP a gen 5 or 6 P99


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Certainly the lineage goes back to the P99.

I think the stepped barrel technology goes even farther back.

 

[Vandal320]

Bought a Full Size today. I will get the Compact, and the 19X/PDP Commander. That grip is wonderful. This gun is fantastic.

 

[P99AS40lover]

Seeing some OUTRAGEOUS mark ups on retail PDPs over MSRP

 

[Mig1]

Seeing some OUTRAGEOUS mark ups on retail PDPs over MSRP

That and out of stock are the only reasons I don't have one yet.


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