8+1 like the CCP M1
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Long overdue....but is it any more reliable? That is the real test. Unless a number of other issues were addressed I still won't purchase one. Job one for a CCP - Concealed Carry Put your life on the line behind it, is reliability. Feezing the video I can see that the rear system housing is new, the sear appears much taller and the disconnect appears to be longer on the rear which would minimize the firing pin block from banging into the metal rail on the top right side. Ejector appears to be the same. External safety seems to be the same design, can tell nothing of the cylinder and trigger bar except that is is still supported by a small plunger on the right side of the frame. From my reading of just about all threads on this pistol there has never been any issues on the front end of the pistol. They were all in the rear, from dropping mags, firing pin block hang up, tricky process for dismounting the slide. Many thought the striker safety needed to be moved forward eliminating a pretty long compression of the striker spring before release on a short stroke. I wonder if this was addressed. Does a short stroke still allow the striker firing pin nose to rest on the primer? Is the bump still there? Are the new parts drop in on the older pistol? 1917
http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns...il&utm_term=0_665edeb91c-4beda43297-120693769
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Screen grab of the top of the rear system housing. Might be wrong but the disconnector seems to reach further rearward. That is a really fast moving video?
http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns...il&utm_term=0_665edeb91c-4beda43297-120693769
Screen grab of the top of the rear system housing. Might be wrong but the disconnector seems to reach further rearward. That is a really fast moving video?
my sentiments exactly... boring. What kills me is they put a rail on this piece and take it away on my PPS M2.
At least the magazines are compatible!
my sentiments exactly... boring. What kills me is they put a rail on this piece and take it away on my PPS M2.
I don't think there are any rails. The barrel holds the front end of the slide and that round take down thing a majiggy seems to allow the striker spring channel to slide over it which holds the rear of the slide on. Similar concept to the original. There is no telling if it has been improved regarding reliability until some folks begin to put rounds down range. And still, there are a sizable number of folks here who never had problems with their original. We will soon find out. 1917
I'm not sure that is a good thing. Don't get me wrong....I'd love to see this pistol sorted and become 100% reliable....but some of the past efforts on some pistols still did not get it right or only one of many issues was addressed. 1917At least the magazines are compatible!
Now look Thunderbird..He means the rail to mount an optic, light, what-have-you...
..I'm getting old but dang...I could swear the original came with picatinny rails. What am I missing? Watched two videos, one had a failure of the slide to lock back after the last round and in both the owners failed to hold the slide rearward after release...in each case the recoil spring moved the slide forward which causes the extractor to be caught in the extractor cut at the chamber which prevents the rear of the slide from being lifted. In one, the owner simply slides the bottom release tab to the right which releases the new style counter plate....he did not press anything in...which makes me wonder how secure the rear counter plate ( or whatever it is called now) is. 1917I'm with ya. I think I'd wait a bit to see how the redesigned version holds up. I am intrigued by it though. If I were to buy one, it would have to be from a local store where I could at least dry fire if not shoot it.
I have handled two different ones in the recent past. Felt like a chintzy cheap little thing, and that takedown procedure I wasn't about to attempt.
IF, and that's a big fat-ass if...trigger is even somewhat improved (probably ain't though) I'd give it a second chance.
It would NOT be replacing "old faithful" (my PPS) in any role however.
Maybe something I could tie on my ankle in addition to the PPS that's pretty much a part of my daily apparel, just like socks and a shirt.
I have handled two different ones in the recent past. Felt like a chintzy cheap little thing, and that takedown procedure I wasn't about to attempt.
IF, and that's a big fat-ass if...trigger is even somewhat improved (probably ain't though) I'd give it a second chance.
It would NOT be replacing "old faithful" (my PPS) in any role however.
Maybe something I could tie on my ankle in addition to the PPS that's pretty much a part of my daily apparel, just like socks and a shirt.
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