The thumb safety would be an outright deal breaker for me in regard to ever considering it as a carry choice.
Yep / yep & yep to your comments as well.Yep - but considering the low entry concealed carry market price point they are catering to, I can imagine a lot of people are buying their first gun based on price and "having a safety"
There are a lot of points I disagree with in that mindset, but its the market that this pistol caters to.
Someone who carries a Shield, Glock 42/43, PPS, etc, will in no way shape or form be buying this pistol.
Yep / yep & yep to your comments as well.
Anyone that's ever taken a good multi-day professional handgun class can probably attest to how much more of a PITA it is to try and employ anything with a manual safety in any sort of real-ish world scenario & likewise, getting said type pistol back to 'safe' condition after the drill. To each his/her own but no way for this guy.
No doubt.If I had a dollar for every person I've met or know who is not an actual shooter, doesn't train or doesn't take classes, and only bought one cheap pistol to carry the 1-2 times a year they actually will, and it "had to have a safety" because it made them "feel better in case the kids/grandkids found it" I'd be retiring.
My in-laws neighbor has a Ruger LCP9 and he took it shooting with us - After 3 magazines it "jammed up" and hes fumbling on the firing line, I didn't know what the hell was going on, he flicked the safety on with his grip - he didn't even realize it was an LCP9s - Shook my head hard on that one. Another pistol I wouldn't waste my money on.
The last handgun class I attended was chock full of people with firearms equipped with either or both manual safeties & decockers. 1911 variants, a CCP, & a couple of Beretta 92FS's etc. With 1 exception (a seasoned pro running a 92FS who'd been to a lot of classes over the years) these were the types of firearms that people who were constantly having some sort of issue with what they were running... to include excessive fumbling that caused a bunch of safety violations. If it wasn't for nearly getting muzzle swept a few times with these fumbling manual safety folks it would've been a great day of laughing at people having brain-fades induced by process overload (1 or 2 too many extra instruction procedures to follow that the rest of us didn't have to mess with). It's a real eye-opener for anyone that's never had a chance to witness it in person.
That's easy. And here's the instructions for the people you referenced.WHAT ON GODS GREEN EARTH ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN ITS DARK AND YOU NEED TO SAVE YOURS AND SOMEONE ELSES A$$ IN A FRACTION OF THE TIME
So do you attend force on force exercises every week instead? I understand the limitations of paper, but it's better than nothing, especially if you understand the difference between drills and scenarios, and even more importantly between drills and casual plinking.Why do people even go to ranges to practice?
Paper doesn't shoot back, nor does it kick your door in at 3 Am and try to violate your home....
If you're going to carry, you'd damned well better be able to use it properly, effectively, and safely. Shooting JUST paper trains one in none of those things.
My .02:Why do people even go to ranges to practice?
Evidently not.On this forum we have owners and enthuisist of all stripes and experience levels. There is room for all of them.
Not sure I made my point. What I was trying to say is the opposite of how you took it.Evidently not.
If you’re going to be understanding and inclusive rather than questioning the intelligence of others and their motivations for enjoyment of different guns for different reasons...we’re going to have to ask you to leave.