Mahurhin 22lr

Take some pictures and closeups so we can see if it’s worth it and what age it is. Are you planning to shoot it a lot, then adding 2 mags will keep it at $1000 and you will have a lot of fun as these are very reliable (I assume it is a postwar 60’s 70’s)

I haven't bought it yet, it's still at the shop. It does seem clean, no scratches and very nice bluing. The after market grips are some white fake ivory, but clean and very little wear.
It's good to hear these are reliable. I won't get back to the shop until Tuesday. I'm sure it'll still be there. Only the plastic guns sell that fast in there.

54mossy said:

Mags for the new production PPK/S models, made by Umarex, won't fit this.
Older model 22 mags are out there but usually over $100 each.
Triple K mags are not always reliable.

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You are 100% correct. But... if it's in nice condition, I wouldn't let the lack of a spare magazine deter me. My Manurhin PPK/S .22 is one of my favorite shooters.

You should also be aware that vintage magazines for this model usually aren't reliable when fully loaded. I only load five or six rounds at a time in mine.

For 54mossy: The Manurhin aren’t marked with proof dates, nor did Manurhin provide serial numbers by production date to the public, to the best of my knowledge. Manurhin’s quality is excellent, regardless of age. The importer’s roll mark can help to identify the likely period, but recall that the Manurhin PPK/S were only made for around 20 years. There are dates reported on some WF threads that can help you extrapolate the year for a given serial number. Here is a link to an excellent history of the PPK/S: A PPK/S Story by PPK/S Hunter

The description of the .22 magazines is correct, plus any era of PP magazine in .22 will work. Yes, the .22 mags stamped Manurhin or Walther will typically start at around $100. The PP(K/S) in .22 is a pleasure to shoot, I have owned several of these over the years, and I still have one .22 PP and one .22 PPK/S (plus a couple more of each in .32 and .380). Great guns!

I'd pass. It doesn't sound like a collectable, and with only one mag it won't be much fun at the range. Consider a .22 lr Umarex PPK/S. It has the same form and function and mags will be cheaper and easier to come by.

Depenau said:

with only one mag it won't be much fun at the range.

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Really? I never bring more than one magazine per gun to the range with me.

I thought you would have said: "Normally I'm happy with just two or three magazines for a range toy."

Depenau said:

I thought you would have said: "Normally I'm happy with just two or three magazines for a range toy."

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Ideally I like having two or three per gun but, I only use one at a time for shooting.

Somewhat tangential to the OP’s questions and interest in a PPK/S, but IMO the Umarex .22 PPK/S cannot compete in quality with those fine vintage machines. But, yeah, you can get three of the Umarex mags for the price of one vintage mag.

For sure, the Manurhin and Ulm pistols are things of beauty and the Umarex an ugly duck in comparison. However, for the money (pistol and mags), I think the Umarex beats the Manurhin and Ulm hands down as a range toy. The Umarex also comes with a threaded barrel. Just wish it had metal sights and a flat bottom mags.

I'd like a Umarex "M2" with integrated sights (like the Fort Smith) and a flat bottom mag.

I second you Geonole 100%, my 1974 PPK/s .22 with silencer is flawless and I purchased 2 “expensive” mags for it for a total of 3…..no regrets….amazing reliable, never had a failure, with fiocchi subsonic, standard and high velocity! My 2 PPK .22 (1965&1968) also are perfection and flawless, one I carry AIWB and yes got the 2 mags extra for it too. Besides fully reliable also beautiful with the lines and deep bluing. You get what you pay for.
Age does affect me, eye sight, less energy, etc…..but these beauties are timeless when it come to quality, beauty and reliability………I trust my life with my PPKs and the protection of my dogs and cats from the evil in my backyard With the PPK/s.
If you just want to plink with hiccups and a feel of JB, sure get the modern .22 but if you want to go further ….. its worth it.

Having handled both the Umarex and my personal Manurhin PP in 22, I'd go with the vintage Manurhin every day of the week. Same [fantastic] production and material quality as the larger calibre siblings, and will most likely last a lifetime. The newer PPK/S in 22 feels like a glorified c02 pistol in terms of build quality and material.

Also, and I can't confirm this 100% as I only have a small sample size, but from what I've gathered: The Ulm/Manurhin 22's are more reliable than the modern Umarex ones. My PP can take most type of ammo as long as it's lubed, but the Umarex really don't like standard velocity from what I've seen. A gentlemen at my club owns one and it fails to cycle or function properly frequently.

Sure my Manurhin also experience issues, but mostly when it starts to clog up and is in need of a good clean, which most 22's do within only a few hundred rounds regardless.