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Hi, Sorry but I should have named this thread "Is the P99 AS RAD a possible build. If you wouldn't mind going into dreamland for a moment but I believe many of us are alittle dissapointed that the P99Q is LEO/Military only. Ive been pondering the possibilities of building a Concept P99 Rad with the P99 slide and P99 AS Trigger System on a PPQ frame. I'm not as gun savey as many of those out there who are more mechanically inclined and know the walther system inside and out. I was hoping to get some feed back on the possibility of building such a gun.

Basicly a P99 Slide on a PPQ frame with the Fast Action trigger swapped out for the P99 DA/SA trigger system.

I Found these pictures of the exact gun I'm describing, Its Labeled P99 Rad but it has the P99 Slide.

http://en.fabrykabroni.pl/?d=126

http://guns.pl/blog/2012/01/09/nowa-fabryka-broni-pod-radomiem/

Is this mechanicly possible? Thanks for any of your thoughts.
 

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The P99 RAD had a similar trigger to the PPQ and was not double action, also the slide on the P99 RAD more closely resembles the PPQ than the P99.
 

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Your right born, Really I just like the PPQ Frame but prefer the DA/SA.
And the concept looks good too.

Jstar, you're also right but what would you call this gun.
 

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I'm totally aware of the REAL P99 RAD and my picture may be a Photoshop job, I don't know but it does present some possibilities.
 

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For whatever reason I can't get your picture to show however I just did a photo search on google of P99 RAD and I did pull up some examples of exactly your describing...never seen that before
 

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The P99 RAD is the Polish government issued P99 for Polish LE and military only, built under licence by the local Radom factories. I very much doubt that it will ever be available for the public. :( Aside from this, I quite fail to see the added value of this type, when compared to the already available P99 variations... :confused:


 

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Correct me if I am wrong anyone. But isnt the PPQ just the P99QA in a new skin??
The P99 QA was a partially pre-cocked pistol, where the trigger pull finished cocking and releasing the striker.

The PPQ is a SAO 100% pre-cocked pistol, where the trigger pull only releases the striker

I think of the PPQ as a SAO P99 in a new skin, since it uses what looks to be an identical sear housing.
 

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Hi, Sorry but I should have named this thread "Is the P99 AS RAD a possible build. If you wouldn't mind going into dreamland for a moment but I believe many of us are alittle dissapointed that the P99Q is LEO/Military only. Ive been pondering the possibilities of building a Concept P99 Rad with the P99 slide and P99 AS Trigger System on a PPQ frame. I'm not as gun savey as many of those out there who are more mechanically inclined and know the walther system inside and out. I was hoping to get some feed back on the possibility of building such a gun.
Going into dreamland, I'm wondering with as similar as these pistols are, if the P99 AS internals could be put into a PPQ frame, with a P99 AS slide on top?

This is not something I'm really interested in trying, but it would be interesting how similar these pistols are internally, and if this would be possible.
 

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Illmatic, do you simply want a P99AS with an updated PPQ frame?

If so, I've pondered this as well... a swap of the fire control assemblies, the slides, and possibly the triggers if need be; I think a relatively easy experiment if one were mechanically inclined and had a PPQ and a P99AS available. I personally wish Walther would "update" the P99 frame with the even more ergonomic frame of the PPQ.

If not, disregard the above.
 

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What version is that? According to the link below, there is no DA/SA RAD pistol.

From this link:

Rad Semiautomatic Pistol - Rad Semiautomatic Pistol,

The Rad pistol is available with DAO and QA enhanced-safety, “same-shot-every-shot” trigger mechanisms. The grip frame has an integrated mounting MIL-STD-1913 (Picatinny) rail for attaching tactical lights and laser sighting devices.
I can't see the decocking button (or if it has one), but I assume that picture is of the QA model RAD pistol. I think the OP was asking if there was an AS version (or DA/SA version) of this pistol available.

I'd assume that there isn't, unless either you mix and match parts from a PPQ and a P99 AS (if this actually is possible), or if Walther ever chooses to release the P99Q or other similar pistol that has a PPQ style frame with a DA/SA trigger.
 

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Basicly a P99 Slide on a PPQ frame with the Fast Action trigger swapped out for the P99 DA/SA trigger system.

I posted the picture that some people could not get to work... since most P99 RAD's are shown with the newer PPQ slide.....
 

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It's an interesting thought but I doubt it would work. Then there's that slight technicality with the slide and frame serial numbers not matching up.
 

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It's an interesting thought but I doubt it would work. Then there's that slight technicality with the slide and frame serial numbers not matching up.
Even so, I think these fellas just want to do it as a "Devil's Advocate" thing. If they prove that it can be done, there may be something here for the factory to try and market.

Obviously there are people interested in it. Not only us here on the forum.

I agree with what was posted above (Sorry I cant remember who said it), but if Walther would put the guts of a P99 AS on the more ergonomic frame of the PPQ, life would need little else in the gun world. Hahah.
 

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Illmatic, do you simply want a P99AS with an updated PPQ frame?

If so, I've pondered this as well... a swap of the fire control assemblies, the slides, and possibly the triggers if need be; I think a relatively easy experiment if one were mechanically inclined and had a PPQ and a P99AS available. I personally wish Walther would "update" the P99 frame with the even more ergonomic frame of the PPQ.

If not, disregard the above.
I got a PM from Illmatic on this, but I am on my iPad, and I generally can only see part of the text at a time. So, I must have missed the concept of using the A/S slide.

If it fits on there AND can be taken off, maybe someone can give it a shot and see if the gun works. The lack of DA/SA is what stops me from getting a PPQ.
 

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Illmatic, do you simply want a P99AS with an updated PPQ frame?

If so, I've pondered this as well... a swap of the fire control assemblies, the slides, and possibly the triggers if need be; I think a relatively easy experiment if one were mechanically inclined and had a PPQ and a P99AS available. I personally wish Walther would "update" the P99 frame with the even more ergonomic frame of the PPQ.

If not, disregard the above.
Yes, Simple as that.

Thanks Uncut for that picture.

I think this is an obvious design move for Walther. The whole P99Q LEO only thing Doesn't make any sense AT ALL. (Follow the Money) I guess it wouldn't make sense for the P99 to be updated also, alongside the P99Q and still be for (I hate hearing this word) CIVILIAN use, I Guess. I have a PPQ and I think the PPQ is a great gun, but for me the updated P99 would have been even better.

ShipWreck, firing the gun with a the P99 slide on a PPQ frame would be the first Test. The most important Test would be the DA/SA trigger with it.
If I ever do this test, and play Devils Advocate, Which I might. It would be with the help of Twine, Duck Tape and a Large Tree for cover. Also need a spare PPQ Frame and P99 AS Slide. I already have both but those are my babies.

Really the first test is seeing if the PPQ will accept P99 AS trigger system and Fire Control. Someone has to know if this is possible.
 
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