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jgreg

Discussion Starter · Oct 22, 2018

I just bought a Walther PPQ M2 Q5 match. You have already answered the question that I was shooting low with 115 gr Magtech. I didn't know the gun is sighted in at 25 yd. I cleaned the gun and boy what a nice gun in side. I want to put a red dot on it now. Sure glad I bought this Q5 Match gun.

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Roshi

· #2 · Oct 22, 2018

Welcome to the forum. I've had my Q5 Match for a long time now and it still puts a smile on my face every time I shoot it. I have a red dot on mine and it's hard to miss.

jgreg

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 25, 2018

Roshi said:
Welcome to the forum. I've had my Q5 Match for a long time now and it still puts a smile on my face every time I shoot it. I have a red dot on mine and it's hard to miss.

I put the red dot on yesterday and could not get it to work. So I went to the range today and one of the guys there knew what the problem is with my Vortex Venom red dot sight. It seem that no matter where you set it it would not go there. You have to hit it with your hand a few times to make it work. Now I'm nailing it. Thank god for that.

Slartybartfast

· #4 · Oct 25, 2018

Hello!
New here as well. Bought a Q5 with a Vortex Venom installed and first time at the range will be tomorrow evening. Looking forward to it.
Think my eyesight is going to make using a red dot difficult if not impossible. I see a starburst instead of a well defined dot. Might be changing it to the open sights.

jbb303

· #5 · Oct 26, 2018

jgreg said:
I put the red dot on yesterday and could not get it to work. So I went to the range today and one of the guys there knew what the problem is with my Vortex Venom red dot sight. It seem that no matter where you set it it would not go there. You have to hit it with your hand a few times to make it work. Now I'm nailing it. Thank god for that.

I've read a few comments/complaints about the battery cover on the Vortex Venom being lose so they can turn off intermittently because of bad battery contact. Make sure your battery cover is nice and snug but don't get too carried away.

I've had my Q5 for about a month and really enjoy shooting it. I've put just over 500 rounds thru it thus far and get better with every time I hit the range.

I too received and installed a new RD this week, a DeltaPoint Pro. Though I haven't had a chance to go try it out, I hope to do so this weekend.

Good luck with yours!

jgreg

Discussion Starter · #6 · Oct 26, 2018

Venom

How far out do you shoot your Q5? I have a hard time adjusting mine. It does not want to go where I put it. I here that is a problem with Vortex venom. Let me know if you have any problems with your please. I have a Burris on a Victory S&W .22lr and no problems with that.

WaterDR

· #7 · Oct 27, 2018

I have a Venom on mine and I shoot out to 200 yards with it.

My battery cover does get loose and have to tighten it from time to time. I have probably 5 to 7k rounds through mine. Venom went on day 1.

Balor

· #8 · Oct 27, 2018

Slartybartfast said:
Think my eyesight is going to make using a red dot difficult if not impossible. I see a starburst instead of a well defined dot. Might be changing it to the open sights.

That's almost certainly caused by astigmatism and should be no reason to throw in the towel.

Go to an optician and take the pistol with you (having warned him in advance!).

Balor

jbb303

· #9 · Oct 28, 2018

jgreg said:
How far out do you shoot your Q5? I have a hard time adjusting mine. It does not want to go where I put it. I here that is a problem with Vortex venom. Let me know if you have any problems with your please. I have a Burris on a Victory S&W .22lr and no problems with that.

Not sure what you mean by "It does not go where I want it to", but you should zero your new RD using a bench rest. It helps to reduce the effect of any bad trigger habits. Then you know the sight is on and can adjust from there.

I chose 35ft to zero mine. I can adjust if I shoot targets closer or further than that. It will take me a while to learn how much adjustment is needed for various distances but that ok...

I was having trouble seeing my iron sights. I where glasses with progressive lenses so I couldn't focus on the sights themselves. The sights were a bit of a blur...

I'm pretty jazzed after shooting with my new RD today. I felt much more consistent and able to make minor adjustments because I could actually see the RD (delta/triangle). And I can shoot with both eyes open which I could not do with iron sights.

BTW, standing/free from 75ft, I hit an 8-1/2 x 11 sheet of paper 8 out of 15 rounds. I'm sure there are folks that will snicker at that, but I feel pretty good about it at my skill level.

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jbb303

· #10 · Oct 28, 2018

Slartybartfast said:
Hello!
New here as well. Bought a Q5 with a Vortex Venom installed and first time at the range will be tomorrow evening. Looking forward to it.
Think my eyesight is going to make using a red dot difficult if not impossible. I see a starburst instead of a well defined dot. Might be changing it to the open sights.

Do you where glasses/contacts? Or have you had lasik? If you where glasses, it may be time for a new prescription as you may have developed an astigmatism or have one that has changed. If you'd had lasik, that can be a side effect from the surgery. If you currently don't where corrective lenses, it may be time to head to the eye doc, but you don't need to take your pistol with you unless it's your EDC...

BTW, My RD is a DeltaPoint Pro and the model I got has a delta/triangle instead of a round dot. It may help to reduce the effect of the starburst if your round dot doesn't work out.

Let's us know how your range time went.

pcar157

· #11 · Oct 28, 2018

I have a Q5 Match and installed a Shields RMSc, love it and it is unbelievably accurate for me. Typically I shoot indoor range, two to three times a week (retired and single!!) start at 10 yds then out to 15 and then to 20. I used a laser bore sight to zero and it gets extremely close. I take the bore sight to the range and make any adjustments on the fly. Of course any red dot is only as good as the shooter's grip and trigger control. The basics must always be there.
I had cataract surgery, have great distance vision but need "readers" for close up. With iron sights, the front sight was blurry. With the red dot, a very clear picture and shoot with both eyes open. Totally happy with this Walther platform.

Jimmo952

· #12 · Oct 28, 2018

pcar157 said:
I have a Q5 Match and installed a Shields RMSc, love it and it is unbelievably accurate for me. Typically I shoot indoor range, two to three times a week (retired and single!!) start at 10 yds then out to 15 and then to 20. I used a laser bore sight to zero and it gets extremely close. I take the bore sight to the range and make any adjustments on the fly. Of course any red dot is only as good as the shooter's grip and trigger control. The basics must always be there.
I had cataract surgery, have great distance vision but need "readers" for close up. With iron sights, the front sight was blurry. With the red dot, a very clear picture and shoot with both eyes open. Totally happy with this Walther platform.

Hello pcar. I went with the Trijicon RMR on my Q5s. It's been great. No issues and as you say, it's made shooting fun again. Its now less of an eye test and more about grip, trigger press, follow through, ...

I think red dots on pistols are the future and will continue to become more and more mainstream. The technology is improving and more and more pistols are coming from the factory set up to accept an optic. No reason to believe that trend won't continue.

It does take some practice to adapt to the dot. It's well worth it though for what you get back.

In short, to whomever is contemplating trying a dot...come on in.

gmcrigger2007

· #13 · Oct 28, 2018

Hello Jimmo. I picked up a PPQ Match last year ,I haven't decided on what dot to get yet for it. Which Trijicon dot did you decide on ?

Jimmo952

· #14 · Oct 28, 2018

gmcrigger2007 said:
Hello Jimmo. I picked up a PPQ Match last year ,I haven't decided on what dot to get yet for it. Which Trijicon dot did you decide on ?

Hello Gmc, I am using the Trjicon 3.25 MOA RMR. I've been shooting it and dry firing it a lot and have had no issues. I don't have the experience to know if it is the best RMR but I can say it is darn good.

Finding the dot quickly seems to be about practicing doing so.

Shooting at speed seems to be about trusting the gun and dot rather than chasing the perfect sight picture.

I make no claims of being an expert on this topic. I'm just passing along what I've learned thus far.

Regards.

WaterDR

· #15 · Oct 28, 2018

Once you go red, you never go back 🙂

I am sold on them with pistols.

The optic is a tool. If you can’t shoot tight groups with iron sights don’t expect an optic to work miracles. If you can shoot tight groups, expect the optic to allow you to shoot tighter and at longer range.

With my Q, and my optic 15 to 25ft is pretty much one ragged hole. At 50ft sub 2” groups are routine (sometimes much better) one handed. 75 ft I can hit 6” plates one-handed every time. Body shots at 200 yards but I might get a few misses.

I find 147 grain ammo to the be the best performers.

I really should pull the optic and compare with and w/o and make a post with photos.

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Redcat94

· #16 · Oct 28, 2018

WaterDR said:
Once you go red, you never go back 🙂

I am sold on them with pistols.

I agree completely. What I've noticed using red dots on pistols is not so much improved accuracy during slow fire but sustained accuracy in rapid fire. My hope is that going into the future all new full size pistols will come optics ready just like replaceable backstraps and rails have become a standard feature.

Balor

· #17 · Oct 28, 2018

Redcat94 said:
My hope is that going into the future all new full size pistols will come optics ready just like replaceable backstraps and rails have become a standard feature.

........and my Hope (with a capital H) is that the manufacturers of pistols and the manufacturers of pistol optics will put their heads together and start talking about a mounting norm.

Dreams are free!

Balor

Jimmo952

· #18 · Oct 29, 2018

Balor said:
........and my Hope (with a capital H) is that the manufacturers of pistols and the manufacturers of pistol optics will put their heads together and start talking about a mounting norm.

Dreams are free!

Balor

I believe these things will happen. The optics will get better. It will become the norm for full size pistols to be ready for them from the factory. A mounting standard will emerge.

The trends are already there. Didn't the US Army pistol spec call for the pistol to be Leopold DP ready? Haven't some US police forces already signed off on pistols with dots??

Maybe I'm over optimistic but I see the technology as past the infant stage and maturing rapidly.

jgreg

Discussion Starter · #19 · Oct 29, 2018

jbb303 said:
Not sure what you mean by "It does not go where I want it to", but you should zero your new RD using a bench rest. It helps to reduce the effect of any bad trigger habits. Then you know the sight is on and can adjust from there.

I chose 35ft to zero mine. I can adjust if I shoot targets closer or further than that. It will take me a while to learn how much adjustment is needed for various distances but that ok...

I was having trouble seeing my iron sights. I where glasses with progressive lenses so I couldn't focus on the sights themselves. The sights were a bit of a blur...

I'm pretty jazzed after shooting with my new RD today. I felt much more consistent and able to make minor adjustments because I could actually see the RD (delta/triangle). And I can shoot with both eyes open which I could not do with iron sights.

BTW, standing/free from 75ft, I hit an 8-1/2 x 11 sheet of paper 8 out of 15 rounds. I'm sure there are folks that will snicker at that, but I feel pretty good about it at my skill level.

What I mean is when I try to set the red dot up or down or left or right windage it will not move where I want it to go. It just stays in one place like I never adjusted it.

Jimmo952

· #20 · Oct 29, 2018

jgreg said:
What I mean is when I try to set the red dot up or down or left or right windage it will not move where I want it to go. It just stays in one place like I never adjusted it.

At what distance are you attempting to zero it?

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