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I just read the new rules regarding pistol classification and it looks like the PPQ will now fall under stock service pistol (SSP) instead of enhanced service pistol (ESP). I think the new rules go into effect in OCT. 2013
 

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The cat will soon be out of the bag. PPQ is already gaining popularity but I'm pretty sure SSP is about to get dominated by Walther.
 

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I'm pretty sure SSP is about to get dominated by Walther.
You'd like to think that was true, but past history indicates otherwise. Many people tend to stick to their brands, even in the face of better products coming along, for a variety of reasons: from being stubborn to be tight-fisted to being stubborn to being stubborn. Mag availability, of the lack thereof, also isn't helping Walther's cause at the moment.
 

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My current feelings about IDPA.....





I've shot my PPQ in both IDPA and USPSA, and until a few weeks ago I met a forum member at a match, and it was the first time I ran into someone else shooting one at a match.

It's always a curiosity, especially at major matches (State Match, Area, Sectional) the R.O.'s love to check it out, see what it is, I constantly get requests to let someone "put a few rounds thru it". People do like it, they really like the trigger. I know a few people locally who shot mine and ended up buying, but none of 'em have taken it to a match, and don't plan on it.

I love my PPQ, but it is just not as friendly for competition shooting because of the lack of aftermarket support and, right now, magazines that other manufacturer's enjoy. While anyone who shoots a PPQ remarks what a great stock trigger it is, most folks have dropped in after market triggers in their own gun to improve the performance. It's a fun gun to shoot, it's my personal choice (Although I did pick up an XDM 5.25" that I'm going to put some money into getting fixed up for me.) and for it's price it's an incredible value, but I honestly don't expect to see masses of them at matches anytime soon.

Just my two cents though.
 

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Best description of an IDPA match I've ever seen. Haha.

I'd love to shoot my PPQ in competition, but the magazines, or lack thereof, is killing me (a common theme). I tend to shoot the PPQ better than my G19 and I haven't even bothered to get a holster and mag pouches for my P226 (although I have about 10 mags for it and I could).

I really want to shoot the PPQ in a match, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Like you, I don't see the PPQ catching on just yet with the lack of aftermarket support.
 

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The PPQ stock trigger alone is gonna give competition headaches..

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IDPA I'm not sure. But the stock category the guns must be all stock trigger , sights. No modification.

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IDPA I'm not sure. But the stock category the guns must be all stock trigger , sights. No modification.

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That is not an accurate statement for either IDPA Stock Service Pistol Division, or USPSA Production.

These are are just some of the modifications you can make to an IDPA "Stock Service Pistol" IDPA Rule Book

IDPA:

8.2.1.3.1. Sights may be changed to another notch and post type but slides may not be machined to accept different style sights in SSP

8.2.1.3.2. Grips may be changed to another style or material that is similar to factory configuration and do not weigh more than 2.00 oz/56.7 grams more than the factory standard weight for that model.

8.2.1.3.3. Magazine releases, slide stops, safety levers, decocking levers, hammers, and triggers, that are stock on one SSP legal firearm may be used on another SSP legal firearm from the same manufacturer provided they are drop in replacements.

8.2.1.3.4. Recoil spring guide rods and dual spring recoil systems made of material that is no heavier than stainless steel.

8.2.1.3.7. Internal action work may be used to enhance trigger pull as long as safety is maintained (no visible external modifications allowed).


USPSA:

This is a pretty lengthy list, but here is the NROI interpretation for Production Division.

As an example that's how the XDM can drop in a PRP as a trigger and stay legal for production in USPSA. The XDM is currently ESP in IDPA like the PPQ, but I believe it will also make the same switch to SSP that the PPQ is in the upcoming rule changes. I'm not 100% sure about that though since I did not specifically check. All that happened with this example is that PRP got Springfield to list this trigger as OEM, and it's good to go.

The bottom line is you can make some definite changes to stock pistols in either sport, so stock really is not quite as "stock" or "production" as it would seem. The PPQ stock trigger is great, but even in the stock/production divisions in both sports, the advantage is easily negated when there are a sea of OEM parts and triggers that other firearms have. Sure, it increases cost, and you end up having to pay more to get a better trigger, or in some cases an equal trigger to the PPQ, but my point is the advantage the Q has out of the box is negligible to the competitive shooter. (And that's coming from someone who chooses to use the PPQ)
 
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