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I found the exact P99 I want at Buds Guns but..... They won't sell it to me. I live in CA and the gun comes with 12 round magazines. I was willing to forgo the magazines to get the gun, but NOPE. they won't sell it without the magazines.

Seems a little silly to me, but oh well.
 

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Yes it is a .40 S&W. They have P99QAs with ten round Mags, but I want a A/S.

I've e-mailed them offering to buy ten round magazines and just have them ship those with the gun.

I've wanted a P99 for a long time and this is the one I want. They are very hard to come by locally.
 

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I would suggest going across state lines and buying the pistol with the 12 rnd mags. Then stash the 12 rnd mags in your closet and buy two 10 rnd mags to be legal. Or move to a state that lets a man have a gun without limitations.
 

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Seems a little silly to me, but oh well.
Any particular pistol has a serial number, and that serial number is associated with a stock number, and the stock number is associated with the number of magazines and other accessories that came with it when it left the factory. Shipping a stock number that designates an inappropriate (illegal) magazine has the potential for causing great problems for the dealer, who might not be able to prove that he didn't actually send the illegal accessory. Keeping themselves and their customers out of trouble does not seem silly to me....

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I would suggest going across state lines and buying the pistol with the 12 rnd mags.
It is against the law to buy a handgun in a state that you are not a resident. He wouldn't be able to leave with it. He'd have to have that dealer ship it to an FFL in his state.
 

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Bud's Gun's is just being a jerk.

All he has to do is pull the mags and ship you the pistol. Find another shop!!!
 

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It is against the law to buy a handgun in a state that you are not a resident. He wouldn't be able to leave with it. He'd have to have that dealer ship it to an FFL in his state.
Happens all the time, he could also try a gun show parking lot. Many illegal firearms bought and sold there. Only thing is you have a chance of getting a stolen firearm. Not my cup of tea but if you must have a certain firearm then you must do drastic things. Im not telling you to break the law but there are ways around it.
 

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Happens all the time, he could also try a gun show parking lot. Many illegal firearms bought and sold there. Only thing is you have a chance of getting a stolen firearm. Not my cup of tea but if you must have a certain firearm then you must do drastic things. Im not telling you to break the law but there are ways around it.
I'm not sure how people buy pistols out of state other then from another owner or at a gun show. Most firearm sellers I've been to require an up to date and valid state driver's license to even sell you anything, add on top of that the forms you fill out specifically ask if you are a resident of the state you are purchasing in and if you are exporting the weapon.

I don't remember the exact questions on the form, but I have filled out two in the past two weeks buying my Walthers. I'm not saying that it is impossible to buy out of state but from what I've seen they don't make it easy and most retailers won't sell to you... but your mileage may vary with smaller shops.

To the orignal poster, have you tried Gun Broker? You can buy from most of those sellers and have them shipped to your FFL. I know Impact Guns also sells P99s with 10 round mags.
 

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I'm not saying I agree with the Law in Cali, but I would be hesitant to suggest on a public forum doing something illegal. You may have the best of intentions in getting your gun, but in obtaining it that way, you are risking alot.

I agree with Brad ... just find it on gunbroker, or ask your local shop to order you one.
 

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No matter how disgusted I may be with CA gun restrictions, I'm NOT going to break any laws.

I disagree with the idea that every firearm, serial number, proof ect is an issue. Why would he need to PROVE anything? Isn't the burden of proof on the state? Do these mags have matching serial numbers? Not to mention my FFL would not turn the Mags over to me.

I've purchased guns from out of state before and this has NEVER been an issue. They just keep the mags, which I'm happy to allow for.
 

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It is against the law to buy a handgun in a state that you are not a resident. He wouldn't be able to leave with it. He'd have to have that dealer ship it to an FFL in his state.
An aside:

Only adjoining states are allowed sell you a long gun but CA is probably not one to have that agreement due to thier strict laws, communists!


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am i missing something here? couldn't you just go to which ever s&w dealer can order the one you want? or,is the price too high?
 

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am i missing something here? couldn't you just go to which ever s&w dealer can order the one you want? or,is the price too high?
For whatever reason these P99s are very hard to find in CA. I've asked to have one ordered and they all say... "from where"?
 

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I've never dealt with Bud's Guns before, they might be jerks, but they are not being jerks about this.

Selling anything firearm related in that socialist shithole is a collossal pain in the arse. It's far more paperwork and time than most places, and one error in any of it will have CA officials up your ass. These guys, I'm told, can make the ATF look polite and reasonable by comparison...scary.

Move, move now before the uprising, buy lots of standard capacity mags, and only look back to take aim.
 

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California recently passed (not sure when it takes effect) some revisions to their "safe pistol" list.

Soon (whenever the new list takes effect), no automatics without magazine disconnect safeties can be sold in CA. No more P99s.
 

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So what does that leave for California? The P-35 and S&W semi's?
 

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California recently passed (not sure when it takes effect) some revisions to their "safe pistol" list.

Soon (whenever the new list takes effect), no automatics without magazine disconnect safeties can be sold in CA. No more P99s.
Any gun currently on the list and maintained on the CA DOJ list is grandfathered in. What you're talking about only applies to NEW Handguns ADDED After Jan 1 , 2008 or 2009, I don't recall which.

Still, I'm on a buying spree for that reason.

OH, and I found a reasonable FFL who will sell me one with CA compliant Mags so as it turns out I AM getting m P99
 

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give this # to your dealer you work with "WAP78000" and thell him to check with RSR or SSI and see if he can get you one....
 

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Thanks for the help guys, but as i say, I did find a guy to sell me one sans Magazines. He's been very polite and efficient.

I look forward to joining the ranks of the P99 owners.
 
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